Star Wars prequel questions

[MGibster]

This came up in my Facebook feed today. ALL HAIL THE ALGORITHIM!

 

[GreyLord]

For some reason, I have just rewatched Phantom Menace and (shudder) Attack of the Clones. I guess I'll continue with Revenge of the Sith.

They aren't great, but aren't as bad as I remember. The greenscreening and CGI, though, has dated terribly.

Anyway, questions. Well, some questions and some observations.

1. Queen Padme Amidala has Kiera Knightly pretend to be her, while she disguises herself as a handmaiden called.... Padme? She's as bad at subterfuge as Bond, James Bond!

Late to the Party...but...yeah. You're right on this one. No idea. I don't think Kiera's Character even looks like Natalie's...but...hey. If MMB was older, she'd have been a good fit, but she wasn't even born yet...so...there's that.

2. What IS that giant room next to the hangar where they fight Darth Maul? Is it the spare walkway storage area for excess walkways? It's in the stone palace/hangar complex, just through a door, and it's this cavernous metal room, clearly bigger on the inside, filled with precarious walkways and some random laser doors which turn on and off sequentially for... reasons? And then a room with a giant hole in it because why wouldn't you have a room with a giant hole in it? Seriously, what IS this room?

Reactor Room. Basically gives off Power, if I had to guess. That's what I always thought it was.

3. I still to this day don't really understand Palpatine's plan. If you own both a giant clone army and a giant robot army, instead of making them fight each other in a giant fake war, why not just use them both to just say "hey, I'm in charge now". Seems like a lot of effort to get to the same goal. Also why does Jango Fett leave the clone army planet and fly to the robot army planet? Just so Obi Wan can follow him because plot? I assume this means he's in on the whole thing and knows all about the fake war and the two armies and stuff, since he hangs out at both places.

I could go into detail about similar things happening in the world today and in the Past (for example, why couldn't Hitler just tell everyone he was in charge at the start rather than having Brown Shirts, then killing the Brown Shirts and doing it the slow method. They want the veneer of legality, even if it's not...etc.

4. Why do the Gungans and the droids fight on the Windows XP desktop background?

I think it is coincidence.

5. Oh my god that endless droid building factory video game level sequence in Clones hurts my eyes and my brain and my very soul.

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6. Why can't jedi actually use swords? They just wave them round ineffectually most of the time. I mean, I know it's all fake laser sword nonsense, but at least make it look strong! The main characters are generally OK, Mace Windu isn't great, and all the jedi in that arena just look awful like they've just been handed a plastic sword and told "try to look cool". Which they fail to do.

I mean, it's hard not to chop off your own head with a lightsaber (from some old sources of canon), so waving it around without killing yourself is probably a bonus. Not all of them could be Jedi Masters...and some may have even been padawans. Most of them aren't like Anakin or Padme as Padawans...more like...Jar Jar Binks as a Padawan....

7. Talking of which, there's one jedi with a really long 3-foot neck which seems like a massive disadvantage when your primary method of combat is swordfighting (and there's no way he's fitting in a starfighter).

Maybe he's a Jedi Master that focuses more on the Force itself. I don't think we ever see him using a lightsaber. Maybe he uses Light Nun-chuks!

I'm sure I'll have more questions later after I've rewatched Return of the Revenge of the Sith: Electric Boogaloo. As I recall, that's the best of the three.

Just remember, the real hidden Sith in the Movies. It's not who you think...instead it's an apparently Clumsy Gungan who really is a Sith in Disguise Manipulating everything behind the scenes.

 

[Zardnaar]

Late to the Party...but...yeah. You're right on this one. No idea. I don't think Kiera's Character even looks like Natalie's...but...hey. If MMB was older, she'd have been a good fit, but she wasn't even born yet...so...there's that.


Reactor Room. Basically gives off Power, if I had to guess. That's what I always thought it was.

I could go into detail about similar things happening in the world today and in the Past (for example, why couldn't Hitler just tell everyone he was in charge at the start rather than having Brown Shirts, then killing the Brown Shirts and doing it the slow method. They want the veneer of legality, even if it's not...etc.



I think it is coincidence.


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I mean, it's hard not to chop off your own head with a lightsaber (from some old sources of canon), so waving it around without killing yourself is probably a bonus. Not all of them could be Jedi Masters...and some may have even been padawans. Most of them aren't like Anakin or Padme as Padawans...more like...Jar Jar Binks as a Padawan....

Maybe he's a Jedi Master that focuses more on the Force itself. I don't think we ever see him using a lightsaber. Maybe he uses Light Nun-chuks!


Just remember, the real hidden Sith in the Movies. It's not who you think...instead it's an apparently Clumsy Gungan who really is a Sith in Disguise Manipulating everything behind the scenes.

Jedi getting slaughtered at Geonosis is kinda explained out of the movies.

1. Jedi aren't invincible. Theres a limit on things like deflection. Ones we see onscreen tend to be the better ones as well.

2. Rusty. 1000 years of peace. Karate vs MMA.

3. Lightsaber forms. Jedi basically trained to be a little bit goid at everything form 1 iirc. Looks trained vs lightsabers (form 2). Anakin was aggressive and flipped floppy. Form 4 and 5 iirc.

Obi Wan trained in Soresu form 3 iirc? Its a defensive style. They had the highest chance of survival at Geonosis. Most Jedi weren't trained in that form.

In D&D terms typical hedi knight is around level 8-10 trained in a single form. Probably not a useful one.

Heroes (Anakin, Obiwan) are probably level 12+. Trained in multiple forms or master of one (Dooku).

All Jedi masters are level 13+. Theyre not well trained for combat taking feats and class features leaningvtowards diplomacy and non combat options.

A rare few study the old ways and are higher level (15+) with more than the 1-5 jedi knight levels and minimal levels as Jedi masters.
A Jedi 7/Jedi knight 10 has focused purely on combat for the most part. Theres not many of them.

They've probably spread out their ability scores, focused on diplomacy and taken space basket weaving and force:smelling roses class abilities. D&D terms theyre "roleplayers"

Mauls probably something like Jedi 7/Sith apprentice 8 focused purely on combat. The Sith are "rollplayers".

New DM comes in and runs something different aka the Clone Wars. New DMs packing a new splat book, Jedi are using "Complete Book of Asteroid Basket weaving".

 

[trappedslider]

Late to the Party...but...yeah. You're right on this one. No idea. I don't think Kiera's Character even looks like Natalie's...but...hey. If MMB was older, she'd have been a good fit, but she wasn't even born yet...so...there's that.

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Thanks for making me feel even older

Just remember, the real hidden Sith in the Movies. It's not who you think...instead it's an apparently Clumsy Gungan who really is a Sith in Disguise Manipulating everything behind the scenes.

 

[Maxperson]

The two armies wouldn't be fighting against a Republic army. They'd be fighting a handful of jedi--who would be overwhelmed immediately (day one: Order 66; day two: hey, I'm an emperor!) There wouldn't be a war-torn husk, because there wouldn't be a war. There are only two armies, and Palpatine controls both.

With what money, though? Arming a clone army is expensive, and I doubt Senator Palpatine had the resources to do it. He tricked the separatists into spending the money on the droid army.

 

[jian]

With what money, though? Arming a clone army is expensive, and I doubt Senator Palpatine had the resources to do it. He tricked the separatists into spending the money on the droid army.

But he just had to get to the point where both armies were paid for (the end of Attack of the Clones), declare peace (to wild acclaim and great relief, presumably) and then, once the celebrations were done, declare himself God and Emperor, and anyone who disagrees can eat a blaster bolt. No time to prepare or form a resistance movement, no time to suspect a thing. A few public executions and displays of power later, Palpatine owns the Core and thus about 70% of the money and resources, enough to keep his massive joint army going for the foreseeable.

It’s all a bit too honest and straightforward for Palpatine, but not for the Sith in general. Enough lies and imposture, just get straight to imperialism and naked power.

 

[Zardnaar]

With what money, though? Arming a clone army is expensive, and I doubt Senator Palpatine had the resources to do it. He tricked the separatists into spending the money on the droid army.

His masters. He used that money to build the clone army.

 

[Maxperson]

His masters. He used that money to build the clone army.

That doesn't mean he had enough to build a two large navies worth of capital ships, buy arms and armor for two large armies, and pay for the complete building of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of droids.

 

[Maxperson]

But he just had to get to the point where both armies were paid for (the end of Attack of the Clones), declare peace (to wild acclaim and great relief, presumably) and then, once the celebrations were done, declare himself God and Emperor, and anyone who disagrees can eat a blaster bolt. No time to prepare or form a resistance movement, no time to suspect a thing. A few public executions and displays of power later, Palpatine owns the Core and thus about 70% of the money and resources, enough to keep his massive joint army going for the foreseeable.

It’s all a bit too honest and straightforward for Palpatine, but not for the Sith in general. Enough lies and imposture, just get straight to imperialism and naked power.

Declaring peace wouldn't get him both armies, nor would he even be chancellor. He became chancellor due to the attacks by the droid army and the vote of no confidence from Jar Jar. He only had real control over the clone army. The separatists were tricked by him into building their army and attacking the Republic. He didn't have direct control like a ruler.

 

[Zardnaar]

That doesn't mean he had enough to build a two large navies worth of capital ships, buy arms and armor for two large armies, and pay for the complete building of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of droids.

If he wwnt with stick approach he instantly reveals himself and loses the loyalty of every planetary system.

Clone army wasnt thst big snd those planetary systems coukd defeat the droids.