Star Wars prequel questions

Declaring peace wouldn't get him both armies, nor would he even be chancellor. He became chancellor due to the attacks by the droid army and the vote of no confidence from Jar Jar. He only had real control over the clone army. The separatists were tricked by him into building their army and attacking the Republic. He didn't have direct control like a ruler.
But Dooku did have control over the droid army, and would presumably be in on the plan, which is basically to remake the galaxy to their liking, with strong leaders (them) in strong control. Once Palpatine declares himself Emperor and uses the clone army to conquer the Core, Dooku can do the same with other worlds, unmatched by any force of similar size.

This does of course take some preparation and organising, a whole cadre of subordinates who do roughly what they’re told for reward or loyalty or love of fascism, and many other things, but it’s a lot more straightforward as a plan than “have an unpredictable and chaotic war with a lot of moving parts for years, risking discovery and the Jedi cottoning on, trusting your ambitious and highly experienced and powerful apprentice, until you finally decide it’s over and declare yourself Emperor” which is what Sidious finally went with. It’s an idiotic plan, and only one a true drama llama could love.
 

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I agree with @Morrus, most of the prequal trilogy plot was convoluted nonsense, which didn't make much sense and left me scratching my head thinking to myself, "I'm lost". I was so disappointed because I wanted a prequel for years and was excited when, if I'm not mistaken, it was alluded to in an interview with Lucasto when the OT came out on VHS in 1994-1995 or so. Before the 1997 Poophanced versions.

I saw them all in the theater when they came out, (same as the sequel trilogy), and I've seen them all after that as well, but I honestly don't remember much about all 6 of them except that they were not good IMO.

I think we went on opening day to the Phantom Menace and my stupid 23-year-old self went out to the bar early evening the day before and didn't make it home until 10AM day of the movie. I recall waiting in line to get into the show with the worst hangover wishing that one of the Jedi cosplayers would "Strike Me Down" with their faux lightsaber to put me out of my misery; but alas I wished that even more 2-1/2 hours later.

I saw RotJ 3 times in one day when it came out in 1983 and thought it was great, but I was 8. Re-watching it in the years since, not so much. So bold take, "Strike Me Down", but I'm going to rate the SW movies, Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, Rogue One, and Solo. Everything else can smolder in the embers of Vader's Funeral Pyre.
 

That doesn't mean he had enough to build a two large navies worth of capital ships, buy arms and armor for two large armies, and pay for the complete building of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of droids.

He didnt.

His masters cash paid for the clones and Rothana to build the ships. Hugo Damask was rich.

Trade federation and confederacy paid for their stuff.

Clones were tip of the spear and foughtveith planetary forces. Im guessing the planets paid for that.

The the Republic paid for war.
 

So bold take, "Strike Me Down", but I'm going to rate the SW movies, Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, Rogue One, and Solo. Everything else can smolder in the embers of Vader's Funeral Pyre.
Edit: unintentionally harsh tone removed.

This is a fairly common position. The only controversial thing here is whether Solo gets the cut (and I suppose whether Andor and/or early Mandalorian s/b in the mix, although I assume we're talking exclusively movies here).
 
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I agree with @Morrus, most of the prequal trilogy plot was convoluted nonsense, which didn't make much sense and left me scratching my head thinking to myself, "I'm lost". I was so disappointed because I wanted a prequel for years and was excited when, if I'm not mistaken, it was alluded to in an interview with Lucasto when the OT came out on VHS in 1994-1995 or so. Before the 1997 Poophanced versions.

I saw them all in the theater when they came out, (same as the sequel trilogy), and I've seen them all after that as well, but I honestly don't remember much about all 6 of them except that they were not good IMO.

I think we went on opening day to the Phantom Menace and my stupid 23-year-old self went out to the bar early evening the day before and didn't make it home until 10AM day of the movie. I recall waiting in line to get into the show with the worst hangover wishing that one of the Jedi cosplayers would "Strike Me Down" with their faux lightsaber to put me out of my misery; but alas I wished that even more 2-1/2 hours later.

I saw RotJ 3 times in one day when it came out in 1983 and thought it was great, but I was 8. Re-watching it in the years since, not so much. So bold take, "Strike Me Down", but I'm going to rate the SW movies, Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, Rogue One, and Solo. Everything else can smolder in the embers of Vader's Funeral Pyre.
I did not want a prequel at all! I’ve written long posts and threads why I don’t like them in general. I thought I wanted a sequel but after seeing what we got the prequel is actually preferable in SW.
 

So bold take, "Strike Me Down", but I'm going to rate the SW movies, Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, Rogue One, and Solo. Everything else can smolder in the embers of Vader's Funeral Pyre.
Like, what the heck is Solo doing there lol.

I can totally understand, even if I don't agree "ESB and ANH are the only good SW movies", that's the least bold take possible. People have been saying that since forever. I can understand adding Rogue One if you really, really loved SW for the aesthetics more than anything else (and it does have a quite ESB-ish tone), or because of the reflected glory of Andor. That's also a very basic and typical take.

But Solo? SOLO?!?!?!? Really? That is the bold take here.

It's so bad and every criticism you could apply to the PT and ST applies so hard to it - terrible acting, inconsistent visual design, absolutely clunky writing, appalling pacing, terrible unnecessary explanations of stuff, Marvel-style quipping, a wildly out-of-place robot revolution subplot which is totally undermined by the film's own decisions (a complicated one but related to a lot of specific criticism of certain PT and ST elements which were out-of-place and undermined by the same movies), deus ex machina ending, and some really questionable casting choices. I genuinely was shocked when I saw it. I didn't think it could be that bad, but it was somehow much worse than even the low expectations I had for it.

Anyway humans are amazing.
 

Like, what the heck is Solo doing there lol.

I can totally understand, even if I don't agree "ESB and ANH are the only good SW movies", that's the least bold take possible. People have been saying that since forever. I can understand adding Rogue One if you really, really loved SW for the aesthetics more than anything else (and it does have a quite ESB-ish tone), or because of the reflected glory of Andor. That's also a very basic and typical take.

But Solo? SOLO?!?!?!? Really? That is the bold take here.

It's so bad and every criticism you could apply to the PT and ST applies so hard to it - terrible acting, inconsistent visual design, absolutely clunky writing, appalling pacing, terrible unnecessary explanations of stuff, Marvel-style quipping, a wildly out-of-place robot revolution subplot which is totally undermined by the film's own decisions (a complicated one but related to a lot of specific criticism of certain PT and ST elements which were out-of-place and undermined by the same movies), deus ex machina ending, and some really questionable casting choices. I genuinely was shocked when I saw it. I didn't think it could be that bad, but it was somehow much worse than even the low expectations I had for it.

Anyway humans are amazing.
I agree with all your criticisms of Solo. I also didn't like the grimdark version of Corellia we got at the start - I like more hope in my Star Wars stories.

Yet for some reason I still enjoyed watching the film. It was fun, in a way the ST wasn't.

So yeah, humans are amazing.
 



I didn't hate the other SW movies, just didn't like them as much as the original three, and though Rogue One was quite good. I mean they played into things like the "Force Speed" which was op, and thus didn't get used again.
 

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