Stargate Universe #5:Light/Season 1/2009

[Dire Bare]

And I agree that taking himself out of the lottery was a bit of guilt. He got everyone into this. The least he could do is die with his baby, the ship.

I don't think Rush pulled his name from the lottery due to any sense of guilt. I think he was being perfectly honest with Rush, that he had no desire to scrabble for survival on some strange planet with 14 people he didn't really know and that disliked him. He feels that coming to the Destiny is the culmination of his life's work and he is reluctant to leave the ship permanently for any reason, even to save his own life.

 

[Hammerhead]

First off, Chloe continues to be completely worthless. I sense this will be a running theme.

Yeah, who would have thought that a senator's daughter would be of little use on an alien spaceship? Totally unforeseeable.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Yeah, who would have thought that a senator's daughter would be of little use on an alien spaceship? Totally unforeseeable.

• Shower scenes? Already have had one but figure we will have more such scenes.
• Breaking Eli's heart in a love triangle? Figure Eli will start teaching her stuff, we know she is sharp and smart but she ends up with the football player, our young pilot.

 

[Mark]

A bit of continuity problem - if the shields were blocking the radiation on heat, why were their faces red? Oops.

That's good continuity regarding just the people who were down on the desert planet.

 

[wolff96]

That's good continuity regarding just the people who were down on the desert planet.

Yeah, I was really impressed on the continued -- but slightly faded -- sunburn on those from the planet.

If you want to see a nice contrast, look at the Senator's daughter and Eli when they realize they're going to live -- she's as pale as ever, while you can see the burn on his face from the time on the desert-planet.

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It only makes sense that the ship had to have *some* way to re-fuel. The Ancients had amazing technology, but I don't recall anything of theirs that was still powered and ready to go after millions of years.

It sure gives a whole new reason for all the blackening and char on the outside of the ship, though -- *any* solar material slipping through the shield would do a number on their paint job...

 

[TanisFrey]

I happy to see that the ship needed no help from the humans to refuel, just like I said it would be set up.

As far as Rush knowing. I think that he suspected this was the case and was willing to put his life on the line to support that belief. Rush appears to have a lot of faith in either Destiny or the Ancients. I will need to see more of his back-story to be sure.

 

[Dire Bare]

First off, Chloe continues to be completely worthless. I sense this will be a running theme. Also, Eli needs to grow a pair.

I think you're missing a major point of this new series. It has been repeatedly said, both by characters on the show and in promo material, that the characters aboard the Destiny are the "wrong people". Some of them are soldiers and scientists who were going to go through the gate to explore the Ninth Chevron anyway . . . but many of them were never supposed to step through that gate. Eli and Chloe are only two of the folks who shouldn't be there and are the "wrong people".

It's actually a major aspect of Chloe's character that she is "useless". She isn't a scientist or military person, she has no "job" to do on the ship, and she doesn't know what to do with herself. She feels in the way. And to top it all off, of course, her father died just a few days ago (in story) and she feels very alone and purposeless. In fact, as she was her father's assistant, he WAS her purpose and now he's gone. I expect we'll be exploring this quite a bit more as the series progresses.

And please, Eli needs to "grow a pair"? And so do a good portion of the audience watching this show! Eli is a geek with serious self-esteem issues. He's freaking brilliant, but so what? He's a college dropout who very well may never have seen a woman naked before!!! Sadly, while not as bad off as that, I identify pretty strongly with Eli's character. I'm not that brilliant and I've had somewhat better luck with the ladies . . . . but it isn't an easy thing at all for somebody with self-esteem issues to simply "grow a pair" and try to start a relationship.

Besides, Eli mooning over Chloe while she gets involved with Scott gives us some dramatic tension. I like Scott's character and it makes me happy to see him connecting with Chloe, but at the same time I identify with Eli and I feel bad that he's mooning over Chloe and feels, perhaps rightly, that he has no chance with her. He is becoming friends with Scott, but is also very jealous of him as well.

In my opinion, that makes for some good TV!!!

This is not a show where four heroes step through the stargate every week and kick some ass!

 

[LightPhoenix]

That's good continuity regarding just the people who were down on the desert planet.

Yeah, I was really impressed on the continued -- but slightly faded -- sunburn on those from the planet.

Doh! I didn't notice it was only them. It was most noticeable on Eli and Rush, and I guess I decided everyone had it. The orange lighting didn't help.

It's actually a major aspect of Chloe's character that she is "useless". She isn't a scientist or military person, she has no "job" to do on the ship, and she doesn't know what to do with herself. She feels in the way. And to top it all off, of course, her father died just a few days ago (in story) and she feels very alone and purposeless.

Great, then they need to show it. Otherwise it's all smoke and mirrors. If there were scenes where any of that actually was written, or even emoted, that'd be wonderful. It hasn't happened yet, and until it does she's a completely useless character. If the character isn't contributing something to the story, and let me be clear that I mean this in the literary sense as opposed to the plot, then she's pointless.

And please, Eli needs to "grow a pair"? And so do a good portion of the audience watching this show! Eli is a geek with serious self-esteem issues. He's freaking brilliant, but so what? He's a college dropout who very well may never have seen a woman naked before!!!

Besides, Eli mooning over Chloe while she gets involved with Scott gives us some dramatic tension. I like Scott's character and it makes me happy to see him connecting with Chloe, but at the same time I identify with Eli and I feel bad that he's mooning over Chloe and feels, perhaps rightly, that he has no chance with her. He is becoming friends with Scott, but is also very jealous of him as well.

This is something that gets to me personally, in the same way you identify with Eli and his self-esteem issues. I've seen way to many of my friends (and myself as well) mooning over girls (and girls over guys) and following them around hoping they'll "see the light" or whatever. It doesn't happen, and not only is it a waste of emotion, but my feeling is that it's emotionally stunting as well. There's nothing positive that comes about it.

 

[DreadPirateMurphy]

Liked this one quite a bit. Spoilers ahead. Things I liked:

1) Chloe is gravitating to the handsome, protective guy in her time of vulnerability, which is totally believable. Everybody is focused on Eli, but don't forget the "intimate" scene from the pilot, the ramifications of which have not been fully explored.

2) Diving INTO the star to refuel is very, very cool. I have no idea how practical it is, but it wins by Rule of Cool.

3) Liked Ming Na's attempt to bluff her way onto the ship, then her complete breakdown when she sees it isn't working, and then another breakdown when she's picked. She's playing somebody who is used to being in control of her life, but isn't anymore, very well.

4) That head tousle of Rush was the most understated revelation of the dymanics of a relationship that I have ever seen on television. It was absolutely brilliant.

Very, very impressed with how nuanced the writing is for this show, especially compared to Atlantis.

 

[Dire Bare]

Great, then they need to show it. Otherwise it's all smoke and mirrors. If there were scenes where any of that actually was written, or even emoted, that'd be wonderful. It hasn't happened yet, and until it does she's a completely useless character. If the character isn't contributing something to the story, and let me be clear that I mean this in the literary sense as opposed to the plot, then she's pointless.

Well, I picked up on it. I don't think Chloe and Eli's characters are hard to figure at all.

This is something that gets to me personally, in the same way you identify with Eli and his self-esteem issues. I've seen way to many of my friends (and myself as well) mooning over girls (and girls over guys) and following them around hoping they'll "see the light" or whatever. It doesn't happen, and not only is it a waste of emotion, but my feeling is that it's emotionally stunting as well. There's nothing positive that comes about it.

Who says Eli is being positive? As you have observed, people do this in real life all the time. Eli is a flawed character, like every other character on the show. He's not Daniel or McKay the heroic scientist.