Stargate

[Datt]

The crystal power source on it ran out and the one on the russian DHD blew up.

I completely forgot about the SGC one being destoryed. What happened to the one from Antartica? We know that the NID was using it, but did they ever say what happened to it?

 

[Tsyr]

Quickly tracking the progress of the earth stargates, as best I can recall from memory.

The Egyptian Stargate was unearthed, and sent to the government for experimentation in the 40s. This lead to the accident with Earnest Littlefield, after which it was packed up and kept in storage in a munitions dump in Washington DC until the events 2 years prior to the movie.

The events in the later half of season 1 uncover the antarctic gate.

The NID begins using the Anatarctic stargate in covert gate missions until uncovered after the Touchstone was stolen from an alien world. At this point a non-opening titanium cover was welded a micron from the event horizon, functioning like an iris. Arctic gate is out of commission.

Jack and his crew board the Beliskner to aid Thor with the Replicators. Because Thor's off-ship transporter was damaged, Carter teleported the stargate from the SGC to the Beliskner, relying on the (Previously unknown) fact that after being disconnected, Stargates retain enough power for one dial-out. Egypt gate vanishes from earth.

The Beliskner is destroyed, crashing into the Ocean. The Egyptian stargate was on board, and survived the re-entry.

Hammond orders the Arctic gate un-sealed and brought to the SGC, where it takes over as the primary Earth stargate.

At the same time the arctic gate is being unsealed (A period of a couple weeks), a russian naval vessel recovers the Egyptian stargate from the wreckage of the Beliskner. This becomes the "Russian Stargate".

I don't remember Earth ever having one of it's stargates destroyed, but if so, that wouldn't be a major problem... Now that Earth posesses an FTL-capable ship, they could simply travel to an uninhabited world they have visited, or to one of the worlds where the inhabitants have burried the stargate willingly, and fetch the gate from there and bring it to earth... We learn the the gates seem to be very "plug and play" ready in the episode in season 4 when the Tok'ra are planning to do basicly the same thing with their own stargate to move to a different planet, and from the fact that Daniel was able to use Earth as a point of reference with the Stargate aboard Apophis's ship in the first episode of season 2.

 

[jdavis]

At the same time the arctic gate is being unsealed (A period of a couple weeks), a russian naval vessel recovers the Egyptian stargate from the wreckage of the Beliskner. This becomes the "Russian Stargate".

I don't remember Earth ever having one of it's stargates destroyed, but if so, that wouldn't be a major problem... Now that Earth posesses an FTL-capable ship, they could simply travel to an uninhabited world they have visited, or to one of the worlds where the inhabitants have burried the stargate willingly, and fetch the gate from there and bring it to earth... We learn the the gates seem to be very "plug and play" ready in the episode in season 4 when the Tok'ra are planning to do basicly the same thing with their own stargate to move to a different planet, and from the fact that Daniel was able to use Earth as a point of reference with the Stargate aboard Apophis's ship in the first episode of season 2.

If the Russians got the SGC Stargate where did the Russian DHD come from? It would explain why I thought the SGC gate was destroyed, but not the DHD, I'm so confused. They also showed in the one episode they blew up the sun that the gates are very easily movable. I believe the Tollans were able to build their own Stargate.

There is a very good site on Stargate out there: http://trickster.org/arduinna/stargate/ I'm headed there now to try and figure out where the Russian DHD came from.

 

[jdavis]

Yep the whole history was there (what a great site):

Late 1940s (post-WWII): Russian military takes a DHD away from the Germans, who had found it at Giza. They study it even without a gate to attach it to. (Watergate)

2002: Antarctic gate, locked open and rapidly building up dangerous levels of energy due to an attack by Anubis, is removed and sent through a wormhole, and explodes 3 million miles away from Earth. The program is shut down completely for a brief period to prevent a repetition of the attack, then re-opened when Teal'c arrives via cargo ship and announces that Anubis's weapon has been destroyed. The Giza gate is rented from the Russians and lowered down to take its place, and once again becomes the SGC's only stargate. (Redemption, part 2)

 

[Tsyr]

Ah. Part of the whole season 5-6 blank in my knowledge, I suppose.

I'm not sure about the russian DHD information...

The germans having a DHD was only, to my knowledge, ever a fib that Daniel told... Oh heck... what was her name... Catherine, when they got sent back to the 60's.

I had always assumed what happened was the NID managed to restore the Arctic DHD (We don't really know what was wrong with it... for all we know, maybe it was just the prolonged sub-zero temperatures that messed it up.)... Because we see the NID using the DHD in the episode where the Touchstone is stolen... And I assumed the Russians managed to "aquire" the DHD from the NID, kinda a package deal with Mayborne.

Huh.

Oh well, I still like my theory. It holds up.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I believe the Tollans were able to build their own Stargate.

"Yeah - waaa-ay smarter than us."

It means it's often confusing unless you keep notes on every episode (which I don't, of course. That way madness lies)...

Notes on every episode?

-Hyp.

 

[Orius]

SG-1 is terrific. They took a dismal movie and made it into just about the only sci-fi series save Farscape that gets better as it goes along. The plots and technology keep building on themselves, self-referencing and developing. It means it's often confusing unless you keep notes on every episode (which I don't, of course. That way madness lies), but gives it a sense of richness missing from, say, StarTrek.

I don't think the movie was dismal, just average. The premise, aliens built the pyramids was dumb, but they still made a pretty good story out of it. The show is so much better that I can sort of ignore the silliness of the aliens premise without much trouble. It has cheesy moments, sure, but it's totally taken over Trek territry to me. They manage to put in the traditional Trek virtues without seeming preachy or arrogant, and the stories are actually fresh instead of the triple-recycled plots Trek has.

 

[Orius]

If the Russians got the SGC Stargate where did the Russian DHD come from? It would explain why I thought the SGC gate was destroyed, but not the DHD, I'm so confused.

Ok, the Russian DHD came from Giza, along with the "original" Stargate. The DHD was unearthed by German archaeologists, and the Russians claimed it as spoils of war after WWII.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I don't think the movie was dismal, just average.

We didn't start watching the show until half way through the first season, because it was a TV series based on that movie.

Fortunately, we've since picked up the episodes we missed on DVD

-Hyp.

 

[jdavis]

Ok, the Russian DHD came from Giza, along with the "original" Stargate. The DHD was unearthed by German archaeologists, and the Russians claimed it as spoils of war after WWII.

yea I got that (see my post under my post). It's a good thing there are some good websites out there for this show, it's got subplots to its subplots.