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[kolikeos]

hello
i am bored
every now and again im going post a name of some character from a movie/book/game/etc and would like you to think what D&D character he/she/it will be (as in aligment, level, class, race, ability scores, etc)

lets start with something very classic: gandolf

this is what i thing gandolf should be:

a human cleric of 10th level with the war and sun domain, aligment LN or TN or NG or LG, can't decide for sure
odd, is it not? well, let me explain
even though everyone calls him a wizard, it does not nessecerly mean that he has levels in the D&D class 'wizard'. just as a 'witch' may be called a sorceres by the people living in the game.
gandolf participats i melee combat alot more then in spell-casting, thats certinly more like a cleric then a wizard. secondly, arcane spells are supposed to be alot fleshyer then divine spells, and gandolf's spells can't possibly be called fleshy.

that is based on the 'Lord of the Ring' books and movies, not 'The Hobbit'
judging from the hobbit alone, i would say he is either a wizard or a druid

waiting for as many replys as possible and hoping not to be ignored
kolikeos

 

[Galethorn]

I'm gonna say Gandalf is a 70+ advancement Maiar Magician/Loremaster with the Wizard advanced order. He's totally got 12+ ranks in Inspire and Intimidate. He's gotta have at least 20 Bearing, and his Wits couldn't be less than 16.

The first person to name the system I'm refering to gets a free...uhhh...compliment.

 

[shilsen]

Half-celestial fighter/cleric(/wizard?)/loremaster.

 

[Dogbrain]

Gandalf's powers are beyond Epic. He chooses not to use them.

 

[kolikeos]

if gandolf was all that powerful like you say he is, why then did it take so long to get to mount doom and destroy the ring?
an army of orcs is no big problom for a mid level wizard (with mass destruction spells like fireball) and certenly no big problom for a high (or epic) level anyclass.
and if he is a high level arcane caster, why not use teleport?
well lets say he cant teleport into mordor because of spells cast by souron, so at least teleport as close as possible.
and why give the ring to some low level hobbits? certenly an epic level char would be able to resist the rings power lots longer, so unless gandolf's player has a 'cursed 20 sider of always 1' he should undertake this mission himself.

 

[kolikeos]

The first person to name the system I'm refering to gets a free...uhhh...compliment.

i was refering to the D&D system only

 

[kolikeos]

i hate being ignored...

well maybe gandolf is too classic(/boring)
anyone wants to fill in a character sheet for, lets say... spiderman?

 

[Elder-Basilisk]

Try rereading the LotR--specifically, the Council of Elrond if you're really interested in answers. Gandalf was well aware of the fact that he, Aragorn, Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, or even Denethor or Saruman would have been stronger and more likely to fight their way into Mordor than the hobbits. The temptation to use the ring, however, was not simply a matter of not rolling a "1" on a save. The knowledge that the ring wouldn't really do him any good was one of the things that prevented Sam from using it. The knowledge that, by using the ring, they could WIN was what made it so dangerous for Aragorn, Glorfindel, Gandalf, Galadriel, et al. They all knew that, if they bore it, at some point, using the ring would be the smart thing to do and that, at many points it would seem that using the ring would be the only way to keep it from the hands of the enemy. Being unable to use the ring effectively, the hobbits were not subject to that temptation.

As for the orc armies, levelled orcs are a lot more resistant to fireballs than you might expect and in case you missed the memo when you read LotR, Sauron had a lot more powerful things than orcs in his armies. Oliphants, Ringwraiths, fell beasts, high level diabolists like the mouth of Sauron, etc would not go down so quickly. It's quite possible for even high level D&D characters to be outnumbered and outgunned. The forces of Gondor, Rohan, Dale, the dwarves, and the elves were both outnumbered and outgunned. A victory by brute force was simply not possible without using the ring.

So, I think that takes care of all of your protests except for the teleport. And that one's easy: Gandalf didn't take that as one of his known spells.

if gandolf was all that powerful like you say he is, why then did it take so long to get to mount doom and destroy the ring?
an army of orcs is no big problom for a mid level wizard (with mass destruction spells like fireball) and certenly no big problom for a high (or epic) level anyclass.
and if he is a high level arcane caster, why not use teleport?
well lets say he cant teleport into mordor because of spells cast by souron, so at least teleport as close as possible.
and why give the ring to some low level hobbits? certenly an epic level char would be able to resist the rings power lots longer, so unless gandolf's player has a 'cursed 20 sider of always 1' he should undertake this mission himself.

 

[kolikeos]

at last a worthy reply, i thank thee.
so what class/level/race/aligment/etc do you think gandolf is?

 

[Jolly Giant]

I actually stated up Spiderman once, some years ago (I was bored...). Well, not exactly Spiderman, but as close as I could get while using only the core rules.

I made a human level 18 monk, with maxed out jump and tumble skills. Trying to mimic his "spider sense" I also maxed out his spot and listen skills, and gave him the Alertness, Dodge, Mobility and Blind Fight feats.

For items, I went with Slippers of Spiderclimb, Ring of Jumping, Belt of Giant Strength, Gloves of Dex, Catsuit of Resistance (AKA Robe of Resistance! ) and I tailor-made him a pair of bracers. The bracers functioned more or less like a rod, in that anyone could use them and that they had multiple effects that didn't quite match any particular spell. Obviously, the bracers allowed the wearer to utilize certain variations on the Web spell at will...

I don't remeber what other feats he had, or where that character sheet is now, unfortunately...