D&D General Stealing Death Moves from Daggerheart for 5e

[Charlaquin]

Ok, did the math so I can give players more information if they’re uncertain whether they should take the risk of Putting Their Life in Fate’s Hands.

Here’s the approximate percentage chance of survival, rounded to the nearest whole number, based on number of “scars” (permanent death save failures) accumulated and whether or not you spend Heroic Inspiration for one auto-success. Assuming you don’t have advantage on death saves, and you ride it out until you stabilize naturally or die.

Number of Scars	Without Heroic Inspiration	With Heroic Inspiration
0	~60%	~74%
1	~42%	~57%
2	~21%	~33%
3	0%	0%

Following up with the same table but assuming advantage on all death saves (potential sources: Beacon of Hope spell, Foresight spell, Reborn lineage, etc).

Number of Scars	Without Heroic Inspiration	With Heroic Inspiration
0	~95%	~97%
1	~84%	~90%
2	~56%	~66%
3	0%	0%

 

[Charlaquin]

Yeah what i said seems very clear to me, even just reading your quote reply, so idk.

No worries, i just dont feel like arguing with someone i like about something like this.

Not trying to argue, just to understand. But, it’s all good, I’ll drop the point if you prefer.

 

[Horwath]

Why do you want there to be resurrection, out of curiosity?

we have all kinds of reality altering magics, why not resurrection.

it's common mythology, maybe you like the character concept so you want to keep the character.
without going to; this is my twin brother, trope.

 

[Vael]

I like it. My concern is that the way damage works in 5e compared to Daggerheart ... there's more uncertainty in 5e given damage is unbounded and that in-combat healing is generally considered ineffective, which is not what happens in Daggerheart.

I do like Daggerheart's death move system, so I'd be interested to see how this plays out at the table, though.

 

[Charlaquin]

I like it. My concern is that the way damage works in 5e compared to Daggerheart ... there's more uncertainty in 5e given damage is unbounded and that in-combat healing is generally considered ineffective, which is not what happens in Daggerheart.

Oh, I should mention, my intent is for this to replace 5e’s instant death by massive damage rule. Also, while it’s true that in 5e Classic, in-combat healing is generally considered inefficient, but I’ll be running this with the 2024 rules, which doubled the dice on all healing spells and made potions a bonus action to use. So hopefully those factors will mitigate these potential issues.

I do like Daggerheart's death move system, so I'd be interested to see how this plays out at the table, though.

I’d be happy to update you with how it goes! I’ll probably be starting the campaign I’m using this in very soon. I’ll follow up after the first few KOs of the campaign.