Super SPOILER FILLED Serenity thread

[Darthjaye]

Wow, so Jane has to live with what's happened........And by that I mean getting his Gol Durned butt beat twice by a 90 pound girl.

 

[Darthjaye]

Also, it was nice how they finally introduced the Reavers...and in a big way. Could the news of what the Alliance has done start another movement towards rebellion?

 

[Captain Howdy]

I saw the movie at the very first showing in my town, noon. I had to work this evening, but I couldn't stand to wait another day!
I really enjoyed Serenity, really nothing was bad about it. Wash and Book are my two favorite characters, but seeing them die (while quite heart-wrenching) wasn't dissapointing at all. Someone had told that only two of the crew die, but I was still biting my nails during the last few minutes. Pretty intense stuff.
I am glad the movie explained the Reaver's history and focused on them a little. They were probably the most intriguing part of the TV series for me. Mostly because you never really saw them. All you saw was the crew's reactions when they talked about them. As soon as they landed on Miranda, I knew that planet was going to have something to do with the Reavers!
I think the only thing that bugged me about the movie was Mr. Universe... Not the character. No, the character was pretty cool and I generally liked him. I'm talking about the actor. It was one of those times that I was sitting there trying to think of where the hell I saw this actor before. It dawned on me as we were walking out of the theater. He played the main elf in The Santa Clause.
It's always destracting when that happens to me while watching a movie.

 

[stevelabny]

bout time someone started one of these spoiler threads...i've been waiting since may :-D

I just DON'T get anyone who has a problem with the deaths. If the scene made you cry... how many movies make you cry? If a movie makes you feel...it did its job.

Is the impact less if you didnt watch the show? Absolutely, but there is NO possible away around that. Is the movie still a great flick for firefly virgins? I think for them it would be good, not great. The emotions are what brings it to the next level.

But good is still better than every other movie disaster of 2005.

So many people are saying (myself included) that after Wash's death, they really thought this might be the end, that NOBODY was going to survive. How great a feeling is that?
I haven't had that feeling at a movie since I was a little kid and too dumb to understand that main characters always survive.

This movie is near perfect. I can't wait to see the numbers it does (I wouldnt be surpsied at a sucky 10 mil or a nice big 40) and I cant wait for my friends to stop working nights so i can see their reactions.

We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I'm glad to see that it wrapped a few things up, like the whole thing about what went on with River and Simon. At least that was the biggest mystery out of all 13 episodes of Firefly, though we still haven't got any answers about Book or Inara.

Yeah, the deaths were shocking but it at least it made the movie more of an event rather than a long episode.

And I got to say, it's a relief to actually see Simon and Kaylee getting together in the end, since I cringed everytime Simon blew Kaylee off through out the entire series, usually with something like 'You stuck-up idiot'.

Anyways the showing I went to was packed, and there were quite a few fans there dressed up as Firefly characters (or companions), including a really well done Kaylee.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Did everyone in the theater gasp when Wash died? I was in packed theater for the sneak preview there were gasps then dead silence. I was hoping the movie would rewind and show Wash ducking for cover. It was hard watching the movie a second time knowing what was going to happen. Rough stuff, Joss may be a bastard but I loved it.

Holy crap, was I completely stunned. I think I stopped breathing for the next few minutes, and it still hasn't sunk in. Hated it, but I loved it.

And I can say that it certainly filled its purpose- for the next 20 minutes, I really didn't have any idea who was going to get it next. I almost thought Joss was going to kill the whole damn crew, because the tension was ratcheted so high afterwards.

It was so tense in the theater (which didn't have too many people in it at the time, so there wasn't a mob shared emotion thingy going on), that when River popped her head in on Simon and Kaylee at the end- a funny moment to be sure, but not hysterical- the audience broke into outrageous fits of laughter. I got the sense that they were laughing not so much at the scene itself, but as a release from all the tension and trauma that the end of the movie had wrought, especially Wash's death. Powerful stuff.

I think Book used to be and Operative of Parliment before he became a sheppard.

I didn't get that at first, until I saw some other people suggest it, and now I have to agree with the assessment. It certainly fits.

I think he was probably an Operative, but his sense of remorse over the means he used got to him and he retired. Then he became a sheperd so that he could continue his mission (that he still wholeheartedly, possibly even fanatically) believed in- the Alliance at its core- but in a different manner. Not through violence, but through peace.

Of course, when he joined up with Serenity, he came to a realization like the Operative in this movie, that life on the Rim isn't exactly like the Alliance would have you believe. Hence his "crisis of conscience" in the pilot episode- "I think I got on the wrong ship."

Yes, I am a believer that he, too, was once an operative.

Speaking of whom, wow. What an awesome villain. Great performance, memorable villain. I only wish he'd had a name other than "Operative", because every time I saw him, I was thinking "who the ???? is he?"

 

[Cthulhudrew]

I agree. If you go with that theory and view the Operative as a younger Book, it just rocks. Was Book as ruthless as the Operative? Is that why he refuses to discuss his past? Will the Operative also find faith and take the same path as Book?

I think he's already on that path. I half expected him to join the crew at the end- though in retrospect, I think it wouldn't have worked. From a character perspective, Mal just wouldn't have it, nor would anyone else. Too much of his villainy had been seen to be forgiven, at least not until he does some major league redeeming.

The Operative just rocked. Cool, calm, smart and resourceful. When Inara told Mal that he "couldn't handle this man" you could really believe it. And when Mal was faster on the draw, and more devious than the Operative, it really added credibility to Mal's status as a hero.

That first scene with the Operative, when he makes the guy fall on his sword. Intense. My buddy was squirming in his chair (kind of funny in itself- didn't realize he was that squeamish).

So- any takers on the Operative vs. Jubal Early?

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Now, was it just me, or was Mal not just asking about the ship when he was talking to Zoe at the end?

Oh- of course. Joss is the master of multi-layered dialogue. There was a bit before that (I think he was talking to River) where the same thing was going on that stood out to me (though damned if I can recall exactly what it was now).

That's one of the things I dearly enjoy about his writing, is the subtext.

(Which makes Buffy's "cookie dough" speech in the finale- written by Joss- stand out so badly, IMO. It was just subpar for what he is/has shown to be capable of.)

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Wow, so Jane has to live with what's happened........And by that I mean getting his Gol Durned butt beat twice by a 90 pound girl.

I really enjoyed Jayne in this movie, I think more than I did during the series. He didn't seem like such a one-note, dumb galoot for one (which is fun, to a point), and he seems to be growing a bigger sack than he used to, standing up and taking Mal to task, rather than just easily slinking away like he used to.

I think it showed some growth for the character, which is cool. In his own way, Jayne is growing into more than just the crew's muscle- or extra muscle- and being a part of the family.

Also, it was nice how they finally introduced the Reavers...and in a big way. Could the news of what the Alliance has done start another movement towards rebellion?

I'd fully expect the Operative to be a part of something now- trying to find a better way to achieve his dream than what he'd been doing before (perhaps like Book may have done?)

I wouldn't be surprised to see something stirred up against the Alliance, and people to approach Mal to lead it. It's actually where I expected the series to end up going, eventually (by about the end of season 2, start of season 3), with Shepherd Book prodding Mal towards a leadership role.

 

[sotmh]

I was so mad when Wash died. I literally could not believe that happened. I sat there thinking, "What is Joss doing, he's ruining everything!" Of course, the more I thought about it the more it made sense, to the point that I think Joss had intended him to die from the outset of the show (had the series continued on FOX). Joss has said in interviews that he's always wanted to kill off a main character in a completely unexpected way, he really did it here. Wash was a real favorite of mine, and I hope the series continues so we can see the ultimate impact his loss (and Book's) will have on the crew. This was an excellent movie and I was on the edge of my seat the whole last 30 minutes. I really expected everyone to die at the end, masterfully done. I'm seeing it again tomorrow.