Spoilers SW: Skeleton crew discussion thread

[Enevhar Aldarion]

If our dread pirate is the supervisor/one of the kid’s parents, then the ship can’t have been on At Atin for much more than a decade.

The song said he disappeared after finding At Atin, which implies he never left.

I thought one of the skeletons on the ship was supposed to be him, as I thought one was wearing a hat like you would see on a pirate captain?

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

They’re in middle school, so around 10–12 would be my guess.

OK. I'd have guessed a little older, but it would explain some of their mosts childish moments (like Wim pushing buttons, despite being into is clearly a life & death situation).

Now that Wim and KB have figured out that the New Republic x-wings belong to the good guys, I wonder if we will see the kids contact the New Republic for help in defending their home world from the pirates.

Fern mentions she knows of Coruscant and Alderaan, which doesn't help -- these worlds are extremely ancient. The kids do learn about them in school. It's logical -- real life middleschoolers can identify a few foreign capitals. But identifying... X-wings and associating them with "good guys"? That's quite strange. According to Wookiepedia, the Clone Wars' main superiority fighter was the Z-95 Headhunter. Incom developped the X-Wing as a candidate for the Imperial Navy. So they appeared at the earliest after the Clone Wars (19 BBY) and were a prototype. Still going with the same source, their use started to be widespread in 5 BBY and the Rebel Alliance used them in 1 BBY.

So basically At Attin might have never been totally cut off information-wise from the Republic, since their schoolchildren had access to enough material for someone interested in (or in Wim's case, fascinated by, but KB recognized them as well) the topic could correctly identify X-wings and associate them with "good guys". Which in this case must be the Rebel Alliance, since they weren't used by the Republic to win the Clone War. And they were never used by the Empire so it can't be that At Attin is just a loyal planet to the Empire -- the children would associate X-wings with terrorists if it was the case.

Is it possible that they just are following the news on TV about the Republic, the Empire, the Rebellion... and the children don't care about the news but get some pieces of information? And the information black-out is only one-way? But then, how could they miss that Alderaan was destroyed? It must have been a significant event discussed by parents. And if they had learnt about Alderaan in school, the information "and it was the first planet to be blown so it no longer exists" would have been mentionned.

Is it still safe to assume that Jod will have a change of heart / redemption arc by the end?

He doesn't seem to be a total bad guy. Sure, he ordered the acid trap to be reset, which was meant to kill every bounty hunter/pirate, in cold blood. But he obviously had reservation when fighting "Captain" Fern. He practically begged her to yield. Wouldn't a true pirate just slit her throat and be done with that (ok, that and because it's a Disney 12+ series)? SM-33 wouldn't have objected. Also, he seemed to genuinely care when Wim brandished a lightsaber, despite having no responsability if Wim had chopped his own arm's off...

I can see Wim appealing to his better nature, but it seems like Jod has twisted the Jedi teachings into a selfish, “every man for himself” kind of mantra (which is understandable, if he really is a Jedi survivor).

I could see Jod defending At Attin against the pirate... But is At Attin in need of defending? The children knows about starfighters and spaceships. It is strange to learn about that unless there is a fleet (a droid fleet, maybe) that they could be familiar with.

 

[MarkB]

OK. I'd have guessed a little older, but it would explain some of their mosts childish moments (like Wim pushing buttons, despite being into is clearly a life & death situation).



Fern mentions she knows of Coruscant and Alderaan, which doesn't help -- these worlds are extremely ancient. The kids do learn about them in school. It's logical -- real life middleschoolers can identify a few foreign capitals. But identifying... X-wings and associating them with "good guys"? That's quite strange. According to Wookiepedia, the Clone Wars' main superiority fighter was the Z-95 Headhunter. Incom developped the X-Wing as a candidate for the Imperial Navy. So they appeared at the earliest after the Clone Wars (19 BBY) and were a prototype. Still going with the same source, their use started to be widespread in 5 BBY and the Rebel Alliance used them in 1 BBY.

So basically At Attin might have never been totally cut off information-wise from the Republic, since their schoolchildren had access to enough material for someone interested in (or in Wim's case, fascinated by, but KB recognized them as well) the topic could correctly identify X-wings and associate them with "good guys". Which in this case must be the Rebel Alliance, since they weren't used by the Republic to win the Clone War. And they were never used by the Empire so it can't be that At Attin is just a loyal planet to the Empire -- the children would associate X-wings with terrorists if it was the case.

Is it possible that they just are following the news on TV about the Republic, the Empire, the Rebellion... and the children don't care about the news but get some pieces of information? And the information black-out is only one-way? But then, how could they miss that Alderaan was destroyed? It must have been a significant event discussed by parents. And if they had learnt about Alderaan in school, the information "and it was the first planet to be blown so it no longer exists" would have been mentionned.



He doesn't seem to be a total bad guy. Sure, he ordered the acid trap to be reset, which was meant to kill every bounty hunter/pirate, in cold blood. But he obviously had reservation when fighting "Captain" Fern. He practically begged her to yield. Wouldn't a true pirate just slit her throat and be done with that (ok, that and because it's a Disney 12+ series)? SM-33 wouldn't have objected. Also, he seemed to genuinely care when Wim brandished a lightsaber, despite having no responsability if Wim had chopped his own arm's off...



I could see Jod defending At Attin against the pirate... But is At Attin in need of defending? The children knows about starfighters and spaceships. It is strange to learn about that unless there is a fleet (a droid fleet, maybe) that they could be familiar with.

They don't know anything about the X-Wings beyond what they've seen - they've just identified them as "good guys" from context.

 

[pukunui]

OK. I'd have guessed a little older, but it would explain some of their mosts childish moments (like Wim pushing buttons, despite being into is clearly a life & death situation).

None of them appear to have entered adolescence yet, so I don't think any of them are older than 12.

... But identifying... X-wings and associating them with "good guys"? That's quite strange.

When the kids see the X-wings attacking the pirate ships on Lenupa, the conversation goes like this:

KB: "Pirates!"
Wim: "Those other ships are fighting them off. They're like the ones that Kh'ymm called."
Fern: "She said they were called X-wings."
Neel: "But Jod said X-wings were bad."
Wim: "No, they're the good guys!"

So it's not that they learned about X-wings at school or anything.

I could see Jod defending At Attin against the pirate... But is At Attin in need of defending? The children knows about starfighters and spaceships. It is strange to learn about that unless there is a fleet (a droid fleet, maybe) that they could be familiar with.

At Attin has some defenses (like the Barrier and at least one anti-ship gun hidden on the roof of the kids' school) but will they be enough to fend off the pirates?

In episode 3, Kh'ymm told KB to call her any time if she ever needed help. Now that the kids know that Kh'ymm and the X-wings are "good guys", I think we will see them putting in a call to Kh'ymm ... and the At Attin's long isolation will finally end.

As for how the kids know about starships ... it's not like starships are a new thing that were invented after At Attin went into hiding. The kids might not recognize newer models of ships like X-wings, but they'll know what a starship is in general. They believe their society is still part of the old Republic, after all.

 

[Ryujin]

OK. I'd have guessed a little older, but it would explain some of their mosts childish moments (like Wim pushing buttons, despite being into is clearly a life & death situation).



Fern mentions she knows of Coruscant and Alderaan, which doesn't help -- these worlds are extremely ancient. The kids do learn about them in school. It's logical -- real life middleschoolers can identify a few foreign capitals. But identifying... X-wings and associating them with "good guys"? That's quite strange. According to Wookiepedia, the Clone Wars' main superiority fighter was the Z-95 Headhunter. Incom developped the X-Wing as a candidate for the Imperial Navy. So they appeared at the earliest after the Clone Wars (19 BBY) and were a prototype. Still going with the same source, their use started to be widespread in 5 BBY and the Rebel Alliance used them in 1 BBY.

So basically At Attin might have never been totally cut off information-wise from the Republic, since their schoolchildren had access to enough material for someone interested in (or in Wim's case, fascinated by, but KB recognized them as well) the topic could correctly identify X-wings and associate them with "good guys". Which in this case must be the Rebel Alliance, since they weren't used by the Republic to win the Clone War. And they were never used by the Empire so it can't be that At Attin is just a loyal planet to the Empire -- the children would associate X-wings with terrorists if it was the case.

Is it possible that they just are following the news on TV about the Republic, the Empire, the Rebellion... and the children don't care about the news but get some pieces of information? And the information black-out is only one-way? But then, how could they miss that Alderaan was destroyed? It must have been a significant event discussed by parents. And if they had learnt about Alderaan in school, the information "and it was the first planet to be blown so it no longer exists" would have been mentionned.



He doesn't seem to be a total bad guy. Sure, he ordered the acid trap to be reset, which was meant to kill every bounty hunter/pirate, in cold blood. But he obviously had reservation when fighting "Captain" Fern. He practically begged her to yield. Wouldn't a true pirate just slit her throat and be done with that (ok, that and because it's a Disney 12+ series)? SM-33 wouldn't have objected. Also, he seemed to genuinely care when Wim brandished a lightsaber, despite having no responsability if Wim had chopped his own arm's off...



I could see Jod defending At Attin against the pirate... But is At Attin in need of defending? The children knows about starfighters and spaceships. It is strange to learn about that unless there is a fleet (a droid fleet, maybe) that they could be familiar with.

A lot of the recent Star Wars stuff seems to be placed in the same time period as The Mandalorian, so I'm expecting that to be the case here. I guess that's post-RotJ and pre-TFA?

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

When the kids see the X-wings attacking the pirate ships on Lenupa, the conversation goes like this:

KB: "Pirates!"
Wim: "Those other ships are fighting them off. They're like the ones that Kh'ymm called."
Fern: "She said they were called X-wings."
Neel: "But Jod said X-wings were bad."
Wim: "No, they're the good guys!"

So it's not that they learned about X-wings at school or anything.

OK, I focussed on the conclusion, but if he just deduced they were the good guys because they realized the pirates were the bad guys and Jod couldn't be trusted, so it would make X-wings good guys, it's maes more than Wim recognizing the ships. Thanks.

At Attin has some defenses (like the Barrier and at least one anti-ship gun hidden on the roof of the kids' school) but will they be enough to fend off the pirates?

Yeah, I suspect the demonstration on how to activate the turbolaser turret is certainly a lesson that will be useful later. I guess the "is this enough?" depends on how one views the settlement of At Attin. If we've seen one suburb of one city, then obviously the pirate fleet would be as irrelevant to plantery conquest than a fleet of a dozen dinghys against the rest of Earth. But the idea that we've seen all there is to see in At Attin and it has a single city is certainly possible. (There are probably several schools, though, since the kid's school is named Gamma).

In episode 3, Kh'ymm told KB to call her any time if she ever needed help. Now that the kids know that Kh'ymm and the X-wings are "good guys", I think we will see them putting in a call to Kh'ymm ... and the At Attin's long isolation will finally end.

It struck me that she asked them to call her, but didn't ask if they a had the means to communicate. The Supervisor would, though.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

A lot of the recent Star Wars stuff seems to be placed in the same time period as The Mandalorian, so I'm expecting that to be the case here. I guess that's post-RotJ and pre-TFA?

Yes, it was confirmed that the show is part of the Mandoverse, but no clue who will carry over to other series or movies, other than the couple of pirates that have been in both this and The Mandalorian.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

None of them appear to have entered adolescence yet, so I don't think any of them are older than 12.

All four kid actors were around 10-12 while the show was being filmed, with the boys being a year younger than the girls, which I think is the in-show difference as well. Personally, I feel the fact the actor for Wim had not hit any kind of growth spurt yet throws things off, as it makes him seem more than a year younger than the girls.

 

[billd91]

OK. I'd have guessed a little older, but it would explain some of their mosts childish moments (like Wim pushing buttons, despite being into is clearly a life & death situation).

Their relatively sheltered lives would probably also be a factor. On At Attin, it seems safety droids are all over the place and there aren’t a lot of particularly dire consequences to risk other than having your future role in society suck because you blew an exam.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I thought one of the skeletons on the ship was supposed to be him, as I thought one was wearing a hat like you would see on a pirate captain?

There would have been no reason to conceal his appearance in the recording if he was dead. Anyone can wear a hat.

It would depend on the environment in the ship, but a decade or two is plenty of time to turn a corpse into a skeleton.