Swashbuckling Adventures: 7th Sea d20 review
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Kaptain_Kantrip
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*sigh* 
I can see where this is going, LOL...
But Seth did get his butt handed to him!
I can see where this is going, LOL... But Seth did get his butt handed to him!
EricNoah
Adventurer
Hey, Kaptain K, since you actually have the book, can you actually confirm that Mike doesn't in fact have a credit in there? Because upon looking at Seth's post again it seems like even he wasn't sure they used the Rokugan courier. Would you just take a peek for us? Pretty please??
JoeGKushner
Adventurer
Kaptain_Kantrip said:
Well, my local hobby store is carrying it but if it's as bad as has been said... I'll either wait for 2nd printing or errata to come out. Or steal a friends. Of course, that's assuming I don't get a review copy.
I have picked up and read much of the Swashbuckling Adventures book. I am frankly puzzled by KK's pan of the book due to poor editing. I have found editorial/type-setting errors, however, I have not found the editing much of a problem. I have been able to read the book without difficulty, even with the occasional misspellings. To address a couple of issues raised by KK:
The Arcana system. At first level, characters are able to choose a Hubris (if good) or Flaw (if evil) in exchange for a bonus feat or special feat-like ability -- Virtue (if good) or Wile (if evil). The Hubrises and Flaws are all role-playing oriented, and are basically personality traits for characters. A Hubris or Flaw can be activated by a GM or other player to the detriment of the character with the Hubris or Flaw. I see no difficulty in understanding this system, even if more explanation may have been helpful.
Prestige Classes with Weaknesses. Some of the fighting-style oriented prestige classes refers to strengths and weaknesses of the style. This information is for role-playing purposes, and has no game mechanic attached to it.
Overall, I think the book is fine. Here are a couple of my problems with it:
Improved/Greater Sneak Attack: These feats raise Sneak Attack dice to 1d8/1d10. I think that this is excessive.
Cutlass: This weapon is 1d6/x4. I think the x4 multiplier is excessive for the cutlass.
Unarmored Defense Proficiency (Beginner/Intermediate/Master). These three feats grant a scaling AC bonus to a character based on level, ranging from +3 at level 1 (Beginner) to +17 at level 20 (Master). The only conditions are to take these feats and to not wear armor. I understand that the game designers are trying to encourage swashbuckling characters to stay out of armor. But what do you think?
The Arcana system. At first level, characters are able to choose a Hubris (if good) or Flaw (if evil) in exchange for a bonus feat or special feat-like ability -- Virtue (if good) or Wile (if evil). The Hubrises and Flaws are all role-playing oriented, and are basically personality traits for characters. A Hubris or Flaw can be activated by a GM or other player to the detriment of the character with the Hubris or Flaw. I see no difficulty in understanding this system, even if more explanation may have been helpful.
Prestige Classes with Weaknesses. Some of the fighting-style oriented prestige classes refers to strengths and weaknesses of the style. This information is for role-playing purposes, and has no game mechanic attached to it.
Overall, I think the book is fine. Here are a couple of my problems with it:
Improved/Greater Sneak Attack: These feats raise Sneak Attack dice to 1d8/1d10. I think that this is excessive.
Cutlass: This weapon is 1d6/x4. I think the x4 multiplier is excessive for the cutlass.
Unarmored Defense Proficiency (Beginner/Intermediate/Master). These three feats grant a scaling AC bonus to a character based on level, ranging from +3 at level 1 (Beginner) to +17 at level 20 (Master). The only conditions are to take these feats and to not wear armor. I understand that the game designers are trying to encourage swashbuckling characters to stay out of armor. But what do you think?
Darkness
Hand and Eye of Piratecat [Moderator]
Re: Re: Courtier class
Mike, you seem to have some special social courtier abilities as well!
(And Black Omega: "Over 9 PrCs" isn't that much; these days, there are close to 10 PrCs in each and every issue of Dragon!
Over 90 is quite a lot, though... 
)
Mike, you seem to have some special social courtier abilities as well!
(And Black Omega: "Over 9 PrCs" isn't that much; these days, there are close to 10 PrCs in each and every issue of Dragon!
Over 90 is quite a lot, though... )Kaptain_Kantrip
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Mike does indeed have a writing credit in the book.
As to not finding errors, we must be reading two different books. And I never "panned" the book--I find it to be a treasure trove of crunchy bits--I am just frustrated at the sheer number of errors present.
As to not finding errors, we must be reading two different books. And I never "panned" the book--I find it to be a treasure trove of crunchy bits--I am just frustrated at the sheer number of errors present.
Arcane Runes Press
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EricNoah said:
Yup, "Mike's" (
) name is in there, under the heading Additional Writing. As to the class, it does have alot of superficial similarities to the Courtier published in Rokugan, but it isn't exactly the same.
Patrick Y.
CRG
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I wasn't going to buy this, swashbuckling is not typically for me.
However, I think JUST because of the soap-operatic nature of this thread, I'm going to have to buy it.
Something tells me, one day when D20 books are (snarf) hugely collectable the "Mearls - 7th Sea" will be a hot pick.
Well Mike, if they DID NOT publish your version I still want to see it!
However, I think JUST because of the soap-operatic nature of this thread, I'm going to have to buy it.
Something tells me, one day when D20 books are (snarf) hugely collectable the "Mearls - 7th Sea" will be a hot pick.
Well Mike, if they DID NOT publish your version I still want to see it!
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