[SWSE] A New Fear (OOC)

[JediJake]

oh i forgot,, since your using the movies, cartoons, and comics as references for your games its safe to assume force powers ALWAYS HIT AND WORK!!!
and yoda used the force intercept power when he fought the emperor in episode 3 when they where fighting in the senate room.. thought id point that out..

I find your lack of faith...disturbing. Jedi in the movies miss with powers and attacks all the time. Otherwise the fights would be over in seconds instead of minutes. Also, are we talking about the part where he Rebukes the thrown senate chair/hovercraft thing and throws it back at him?

you mentioned before that we have voted or agreed on rules changes is this still the case?? i dont ever remember us actually doing any of this in the past.

Yeah, lets put it to a vote. I'm not the only one playing and if you absolutely positively hate the change we won't use it. I feel I should point out that once you get used to the minor changes the game runs quite a bit more smoothly and is more fun for everyone. Especially the non force users. They actually have a chance to shine instead of taking a dark corner in comparison to the Jedi. Heck, the smart ones even have a ghost of a chance taking out a trained force user.

 

[Genetic-Jackhammer]

hold on here, what do you mean a chance to shine!!!! nax killed how many things in the last few battles?? and other than that i'm pretty sure every one but the noble has about the exact same amount of kills in combat!!! so i dont know where you have this let other people shine b.s????

 

[Genetic-Jackhammer]

Heck, the smart ones even have a ghost of a chance taking out a trained force user.

lol your right because every smuck should be able to kill a jedi with out any problems... but then again every one has an order 66 floating around.

 

[ffanxii4ever]

I'm cool with all of the changes except with needing to use a swift action to use any sort of defensive power ie negate energy, block, deflect, etc...

Please turn those all back to reactionary abilities

 

[JediJake]

Please chill with the antagonism, your harming my calm brother. I can't tell if your joking or actually getting pissed off over this game.

hold on here, what do you mean a chance to shine!!!! nax killed how many things in the last few battles?? and other than that i'm pretty sure every one but the noble has about the exact same amount of kills in combat!!! so i dont know where you have this let other people shine b.s????

Nax is a glorious example of taking a buncha things and the latest in power creepage and blowing my expectations out of the water. He may have the highest body count right now, but I thought we had moved beyond the number of kills being the yardstick to good character making. Plus with your skills he's almost laughably easy to overcome. Move object him till he can't move himself and keep backing up.

lol your right because every smuck should be able to kill a jedi with out any problems... but then again every one has an order 66 floating around.

I don't think I said something quite like that, and if I did, I didn't mean it in those terms. But with two simple talents a Jedi character is far more than a match for someone heroic of her own level or several someones not quite up to par.

 

[Genetic-Jackhammer]

Please chill with the antagonism, your harming my calm brother. I can't tell if your joking or actually getting pissed off over this game.

a little bit of both.. i apologize.

Especially the non force users. They actually have a chance to shine instead of taking a dark corner in comparison to the Jedi.

hold on here, what do you mean a chance to shine!!!! nax killed how many things in the last few battles??

i just thought you hole coment was way off.. i mean arkan and i are doing about the same in combat as verda and his veus cannon.. infact with the exeption of the arena battle most of the things ive done have been support? ie restraining a sith, draining there weapons, making them run away.. i dont see how we are un balancing the game?? be cause we have a way to block attacks?? well that uses up one of our force powers for the encounter i dont see where the problem is?? once we are out of powers thats IT, right? i mean arent jedi renowned for avoiding damage?? i dont ever remember take damage from deflected blaster bolts in the movies or anything....

 

[JediJake]

a little bit of both.. i apologize.

It's all good man. I appreciate that.

i just thought you hole coment was way off.. i mean arkan and i are doing about the same in combat as verda and his veus cannon..

This is true, however should an enemy sunder his Zues cannon he is defenseless in every way that matters. You and Arkan still have the ability to throw the broken bits with enough force to obliterate starships. There is a small descrepancy.

infact with the exeption of the arena battle most of the things ive done have been support? ie restraining a sith, draining there weapons, making them run away.. i dont see how we are un balancing the game?

It's not and it doesn't and you aren't yet. You are still very low level. Once you start multiattacking with lightning and and flinging three speeders at once is when the scales are tipped. You have had the ability since character creation to handily overbear every opponent you have faced so far with violence. You chose to support the party, and thats why your body count suffers for it. That said your the one who won the fight with those sith outside the Slimy Mudhole.

be cause we have a way to block attacks?? well that uses up one of our force powers for the encounter i dont see where the problem is??

Blocking doesn't take anything from your characters abilities excepting a single reaction or swift action if my houserule makes it through.

once we are out of powers thats IT, right? i mean arent jedi renowned for avoiding damage?? i dont ever remember take damage from deflected blaster bolts in the movies or anything....

You can't run out of telekinetic powers with your telekinetic savant talent remember, your are probably more powerful than magneto without too much effort and are just going to get better at wholesale slaughter once you take weapon spec, unleashed, and multiattack etc.
They are very good at avoiding damage, and they still are. Against an opponent of the same level you have better than even chances of blocking the enemies attack and then getting a free attack against them (using their own weapons even) all the while taking minimum damage. Thats pretty amazing.
It never showed the characters in the movies or anything getting tired. We can only assume. However its hard for me to build dramatic tension if your never in any danger and a little unfair to the others as they don't have the luxury of the defenses your character does, or any of the force options.

 

[ffanxii4ever]

This is true, however should an enemy sunder his Zues cannon he is defenseless in every way that matters. You and Arkan still have the ability to throw the broken bits with enough force to obliterate starships.

Uhhhh, someone destroys my lightsabers, I'm screwed...
Well, I suppose I always have my grenades and my pistol, but most of my jedi abilities are gone...
Well I suppose its time I start thinking about taking some Telekinetic force powers, background be damned.

You forget, he's the force junkie and I'm the lightsaber junkie, without my blades I'm next to useless. I'd be like Nax without his arms, or Verda without his cannon, or if someone severed Sammy's connection to the Force. (though in any of those cases, I'd imagine Nax would be the worst off...)

 

[JediJake]

Uhhhh, someone destroys my lightsabers, I'm screwed...
Well, I suppose I always have my grenades and my pistol, but most of my jedi abilities are gone...
Well I suppose its time I start thinking about taking some Telekinetic force powers, background be damned.

You forget, he's the force junkie and I'm the lightsaber junkie, without my blades I'm next to useless. I'd be like Nax without his arms, or Verda without his cannon, or if someone severed Sammy's connection to the Force. (though in any of those cases, I'd imagine Nax would be the worst off...)

I think your right. I've been thinking about how Obi Wan held his own in that tussle with Fett senior in II. Its been mentioned that he and Windu and others where able to utilize their forms with unarmed combat. I don't see this being a problem you cannot overcome. You would just do less damage. Although it might not be a bad idea to take lightning or something, just in case.

 

[ffanxii4ever]

Right, and because it hasn't been mentioned in your list of rules yet, you can make a full attack in a single standard action, correct?

and with the house rule regarding force powers needing attack rolls if they act like an attack, does this count for Force disarm? Because the entire basis of this power is that the UtF check replaces the attack roll.