Tales of the Valiant vs. 5e: How different?

[GothmogIV]

Greetings, friends. I know ToV is similar to 5e. I am wondering how different it is. For example, is this high heroic fantasy, like 5e? Are there the same (he writes politely) power creep issues with characters as in 5e? Any insights would be most welcome!

 

[Zaukrie]

It's pretty much 5e with different subclasses (though there are class differences too) and better monster design. So, if you have issues with 5e as a system, you'll likely have similar issues with ToV (IMO, of course).

 

[Marc Radle]

Here are a few videos that might help you …

 

[bedir than]

It's pretty much 5e with different subclasses (though there are class differences too) and better monster design. So, if you have issues with 5e as a system, you'll likely have similar issues with ToV (IMO, of course).

Also a different approach to nature & nurture. What you are born as and how you are raised are both options.

So you can be an elf raised in a supplicant society for example.

This greatly expands the stories available to a character (A5e does this too).

 

[Zaukrie]

Also a different approach to nature & nurture. What you are born as and how you are raised are both options.

So you can be an elf raised in a supplicant society for example.

This greatly expands the stories available to a character (A5e does this too).

good point!

 

[GuardianLurker]

I played in a session at GenCon. It felt exactly like 5e.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Also a different approach to nature & nurture. What you are born as and how you are raised are both options.

So you can be an elf raised in a supplicant society for example.

This greatly expands the stories available to a character (A5e does this too).

Every fantasy RPG is judged by whether it can make Discworld characters.

Splitting nature and nurture lets you build Captain Carrot, so thumbs up to all the games that do this.

 

[humble minion]

Every fantasy RPG is judged by whether it can make Discworld characters.

Splitting nature and nurture lets you build Captain Carrot, so thumbs up to all the games that do this.

The true test is whether it lets you make Nobby.

 

[Marc Radle]

Here’s one more excellent overview …

Tales of the Valiant: We Were WRONG! | The Pocket Dimension LIVE!

We'll admit it: one year ago, we didn't have the nicest things to say after our first rolls—and roles—in Tales of the Valiant from @KoboldPress. This year, ...

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[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The true test is whether it lets you make Nobby.

Not even the gods want to take responsibility for making Nobby.