I think that's a terrible shame. This one is way better than the last three. If they'd just made this one, and not them, the Terminator franchise would be just fine. As it is it's gonna die because the las three are stopping people from seeing this one.
Well, that was...... Unimpressive.
I just wasted $6 on PPV, I agree. I can only wait for "Indiana Jones: Dark Fate" which Im sure it will be now that Spielberg is not directing it. Im sure Harrison Ford going to ang around so long before he jumps ship too. And whatever happened to King Conan? Last I checked its in development hell with Indy 5 and Fletch Won.
Better than the last one though.
I'll give you that. I rented that one too, I didnt watch the whole thing so I dont remember much.
This one though the thing that really distracts me is the fight scenes. I don't know if its how they film things these days, the FX or CGI but everything look so fake. I watch the original not that long ago and even though the FX were dated they still looked better to me.
Excessive use of CGI. In fight scenes things tend to look a bit weightless.
That's a good way to put it. That and I think the TVs and projectors are getting to the point where there almost too good. I was watching a football game or a hockey game at my friends house awhile back and it looked weird to the point it was hard to follow. Kind of wish Id have kept my state of the art 2005 CRT Sony WEGA.
I think you start getting that uncanny valley effect as well. Something just doesn't look right.
Yep. My brain kind of tweaks out after a few minutes. In another thread we were talking about Dyson Logos' maps and after thinking about it with most of them being b&w it brings the crossed hatched negative space to forefront for me and draws my attention away from the important stuff. I'm not knocking the guy I just finally realised why I dont care for his maps as much as others.
I watched Antman & Wasp recently and thought the FX were pretty decent.
Disney is getting very good with CGI though.
Yes they are. And yes many movies are wasting money on crap CGI. I dont remember seeing Jurassic Park since it was in the theater in 93-94. That was the first movie I remember seeing CGI in. I dont know if it was the beer ball we drank before we went or not but man they looked good.
It's a matter of taking the time and effort to match the CGI action with the real-life footage. In Jurassic Park, they paid special attention to adding artificial film grain to the CGI shots, individually matched to the grain in the footage those shots were being integrated into. They also softened the focus of CGI shots to match the depth of field in the corresponding footage.Yes they are. And yes many movies are wasting money on crap CGI. I dont remember seeing Jurassic Park since it was in the theater in 93-94. That was the first movie I remember seeing CGI in. I dont know if it was the beer ball we drank before we went or not but man they looked good.
It looked great at the time. Still look ok now.
T2 looks more out of date with the hairstyles than most if the special effects. Except the fake Arnie they shot up. I think they only used 5 minutes of CGI though.
T1 is my fav, mainly because of Reese and the love story with Sarah. T2 was amazing and still holds up. I love the calm, slow relentlessness of the T-1000. Hard to top. Both are burned into my psyche. My mum's fridge makes a three note jingle when you open it... I think of that beautifully desolate Terminator theme every time.
DF? I can barely remember it. It was forgettable (to me) and didn't really cover any new ground apart from having a (let's face it, largely unconscious) augmented human. High hopes but didn't hit the spot for me like the first 2. That rev9 guy seems to spend all of his time running sideways which got annoying quickly.
Terminator was a true classic, a great film done on a shoestring budget. At heart it was a monster movie, but instead of some undead abomination or mysterious "slasher", it was a cyborg. . .and instead of a sleepy small town or a summer camp, it was Los Angeles.
Terminator 2 was the best action film of its time, and there's a reason it's fondly remembered almost 30 years later. It was outrageously expensive, but worth every penny, and was famously groundbreaking in special effects.
There's a reason that all the various Terminator sequels and spin-offs agree on the first two films being canonical.
Terminator 3 started to drop into self parody. The shot of Arnie putting on the silly stripper sunglasses briefly after getting his clothes made it clear they KNEW they were starting to dip into self parody. They were trying to make ever-more challenging Terminators for him to fight, so they had the now absurdly powerful T-X. Despite Reese's dialogue in the first film making it clear that Skynet had lost the war and that the Terminator time travel gambit was Skynet's last chance to win the war, Terminator 3 made it seem a lot more like they just kept sending people back in time over and over again.
To me, the best part of Terminator 3 was the "world building" of finding out that John Connor was "supposed" to get in touch with the military because his girlfriend/fiancee/wife's father is a USAF Lieutenant General and that's the connection he makes that has him become a leader in the resistance after the war. The film was worth it for the scenes of Skynet activating, and Connor taking command at Crystal Peak as the whole world is wondering what's going on and why they're seeing missile launches going off.
Terminator: Salvation was part of that 2000's film trend of making everything as dark and grim as possible. Grimdark Terminator without time travel. The heart transplant ending was a last-minute plot change after test audiences absolutely HATED the original ending of Connor dying in that last attack, so that was a quick re-shoot change to let Connor live but not change a lot of scenes so the film could still come out on time.
The best part of that was the scenes with seeing the resistance actually fighting, like seeing them attacking Skynet bases.
Geneysis and Dark Fate were both forgettable sensory-overload explosion-fests that seemed to be trying HARD to cash in on the Terminator name, but that's it. Killing off John Connor in BOTH films was a huge mistake.
Dark Fate's outright flop may well have finally killed the series, but it hadn't been the same since Terminator 2 and had been slowly going downhill.