D&D 4E the 4e debate: a typology of players
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Here is another I've seen:
11. "Not without my bard!" 4e looks good but it is missing something crucial. These folks really like what is included in 4e. Their problem is with what has been left out. Certain monsters, races and classes are crucial or at least v. important for their campaign settings, adventure ideas and/or role playing purposes. They can't/won't switch until/unless 4e supports these features. Some of these folks will switch over if and when supplements reintroduce their favored material.
Here is another I've seen:
11. "Not without my bard!" 4e looks good but it is missing something crucial. These folks really like what is included in 4e. Their problem is with what has been left out. Certain monsters, races and classes are crucial or at least v. important for their campaign settings, adventure ideas and/or role playing purposes. They can't/won't switch until/unless 4e supports these features. Some of these folks will switch over if and when supplements reintroduce their favored material.
Combination of 3 and 9. I consider myself a "grognard" just because I have been playing DnD and wargames for almost the last 30 years. Still, I have played all of the versions of DnD and liked and disliked things about all previous versions. I am stoked, though, because 4e seems to be the best system for running the big battles that EGG and others made a staple of the 1e adventures.
Carnivorous_Bean
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9, with a dash of 7 directed at 3rd edition in certain ways, and a small pinch of 10. 
Irda Ranger
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I never thought of myself as a Grognard, but I'm #3, straight up. AD&D 2E is how I entered the hobby and I still prefer it to 3E, warts and all. I full well recognize its many shortcomings (and had quite the house rules doc, let me tell you), but on the whole I liked it better than 3E. 3E's improvements came at too great a cost to my preferred style of play.
Ah, this makes me laugh. I think of all those guys who said "AD&D 2E drove me away from D&D, but 3E brought me back to the fold." I'm that guy, but N+1. I played AD&D for eight years, and 3E for less than eight months before wandering off into CRPG and non-RPG land. Arcana Unearthed got me interested in pen-and-paper again, and an opportunity to play Iron Heroes two year ago brought me back to actually playing table-top RPGs for the first time since senior year in high school, and now 4E looks likely to bring me back to D&D.
I'm not #9 because 3E was not an over-all improvement on 2E (IMO, of course); a large improvement in many ways, but a lateral move or regression in others. That's mostly driven by the fact that I am (a) not a fan of Christmas Trees, (b) not a "builder", and strongly-dislike-to-ungraciously-tolerate "build optimization" in all its forms, and (c) hate Wealth-by-Level tables with the burning radiance of a 1000 suns.
If #5 referred to "IH House-ruler", I could be that guy - but the shear amount of work involved in that is exhausting. I'm ready to let mearls finish the job he started this time. Bring on 4E.
Ah, this makes me laugh. I think of all those guys who said "AD&D 2E drove me away from D&D, but 3E brought me back to the fold." I'm that guy, but N+1. I played AD&D for eight years, and 3E for less than eight months before wandering off into CRPG and non-RPG land. Arcana Unearthed got me interested in pen-and-paper again, and an opportunity to play Iron Heroes two year ago brought me back to actually playing table-top RPGs for the first time since senior year in high school, and now 4E looks likely to bring me back to D&D.
I'm not #9 because 3E was not an over-all improvement on 2E (IMO, of course); a large improvement in many ways, but a lateral move or regression in others. That's mostly driven by the fact that I am (a) not a fan of Christmas Trees, (b) not a "builder", and strongly-dislike-to-ungraciously-tolerate "build optimization" in all its forms, and (c) hate Wealth-by-Level tables with the burning radiance of a 1000 suns.
If #5 referred to "IH House-ruler", I could be that guy - but the shear amount of work involved in that is exhausting. I'm ready to let mearls finish the job he started this time. Bring on 4E.
Irda Ranger
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Whoa, there! Your pithy remarks left out some critical information, sir.Wormwood said:
What kind of bourbon? I was just polishing off a Wild Turkey Old Fashioned as I saw your post ...
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