D&D 4E the 4e debate: a typology of players


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not sure

I imagine 10....the thing is..ANY game we play..we change/house-rule/adhoc whatever we want to make the game fun for the players and 'up-to-code' for what we want...

3, 4, etc..doesn't matter.

Overall i do agree that alot of the tenants of 4E are better...but there are some that really make the game seem more repetitive, like a video game -- with forced artificial tactics,etc.

Sanjay
 

Cut my teeth on the BB's, B and AD&D

Looked fwd to 3E. Ended up hating 3E and quit :(

Was very much looking fwd to 4E but now some major elements of 4E have me VERY concerned :(

Which # am I? :p
 


ppaladin123 said:
8. "A different game to play" 4e looks great, 3e is also great. These guys are excited about 4e but also really like 3e. They may also really like other editions. They will continue to play all of them. They generally see no need for comparison between the editions because they don't view them as competing for the same position. A new edition is not a replacement for a previous edition.

This is the one that describes my position best. Though the more I look at the sample characters, the more I resent having to pick all my 3e spells prepared. I'll be glad to see vancian magic go.
 

I'm a 10.

I might have a problem since at least one of my players is an 8 and is adverse to 4E house rules until the game is played for quite a while.
 

I'm a 5 who is gradually growing into an 8. I'm beginning to like more of the material I'm seeing for it as the weeks go by. I just hope it's easy enough to convert 3e material.

...it also helped that pre-orders are incredibly cheap on certain websites. :P
 

#13 - Leap-Grognard

They liked 1e, thought 2e was "dummied down", and returned to the fold with 3e. Not subscribing to the idea that one improves a product by removing options, they view 4e as "dummied down" and are now awaiting 5e.
 

This combination, edited for the most pertinent bits, describes me best...

ppaladin123 said:
3. "The Grognard II" They are excited about 4e because it seems to be a return to the flavor/mechanics they preferred.

8. "A different game to play" 4e looks great, 3e is also great. These guys are excited about 4e but also really like 3e. They may also really like other editions. They will continue to play all of them. They generally see no need for comparison between the editions because they don't view them as competing for the same position. A new edition is not a replacement for a previous edition.

9. "The evolutionist" d&d keeps getting better. These guys like previous editions of d&d. Each edition has improved on the last. 4e looks to be a continuation of that trend.

10. "4e house-ruler" 4e seems flawed but an overall improvement. These folks are mostly sold on 4e but are annoyed at a few quirky additions/omissions in the new addition. The core of 4e appears superior to the core of previous editions. Problems like diagonal rules can be fixed.
 

ppaladin123 said:
4. "On the fence 3e gamer." ambivalent. These guys have problems with 3e but they also really like some aspects of it.

5. " 3e House-ruler" 4e seems unnecessary, 3e flawed but acceptable. These guys think there are problems with 3e but believe that they can/have been adequately addressed with house-rules. They tend to think 4e is unnecessary because the core of 3e is still strong. They may also like occasional pieces of 4e architecture and are quick to pick up pieces that can be house-ruled into their game.
These fit me pretty well...

ppaladin123 said:
6. "3e super-fan" 4e looks terrible, 3e is great. These guys don't have many complaints about 3e so 4e is just messing with a good system.
4.0 super fans push me into this category. 3.x wasn't THAT bad and a lot of the supposed worts never came up in my game.

ppaladin123 said:
11. "Not without my bard!" 4e looks good but it is missing something crucial.
One of the main reasons why I can say definitively that I won't play 4.0. Maybe DM it (since I could HR it if I was DM, but not if I'm a player), maybe still buy it (core books, if cheap enough), but not play it. It's really a secondary consideration though, I wouldn't use this as a rallying cry of any sort...
 

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