D&D 4E The Blood War in 4E?

[Relique du Madde]

Plus, there's still plenty of opportunity for "incidental" conflict between the two. After all, demons want to destroy everything -- and said universal destruction would be decidedly inconvenient in regards to the devils' attempts to rule everything. ...

Soo... then the blood war still is going on, but now its a shadow war that is being fought by surrogates?

 

[jester47]

as it should be.

 

[Green Knight]

-They are not using the Earth/Air/Water/Fire distinctions anymore! The Elemental Tempest is all elements combined!

Coexisting in the same plane doesn't mean they've been combined. Just look at the Fire Archon.

 

[Irda Ranger]

Soo... then the blood war still is going on, but now its a shadow war that is being fought by surrogates?

Only on the Devils' side. The Demons like getting their hands messy.

The Blood War, as written, I will not miss at all. I'm also glad Genasi are still around; they're one of my favorite faces. I hope they get a full race write-up in FRCS.

 

[resistor]

NOOOOOO!!!

The Blood War is easily my favorite D&D-ism and has featured in all of my homebrews.

 

[Minicol]

Can't wait to see how soon this thread degeerates in a 'die WOTC die / You have ruined frcs / the 3e frcs and pg are worthless' etc etc.

No, it would give them too much of a kick.

 

[lukelightning]

The Blood War was (IMO, of course) one of the worst story elements ever to work its way into D&D. It always felt trite and uninteresting. I certainly won't miss it.

Same here. I put "Demons vs. Devils" in the same tired cliche as "Vampires vs. Werewolves" and "Pirates vs. Ninjas."

I felt that it adds nothing the players' experience in the game, and also restricts the DM.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

"demon". The only thing a devil hates more than an angel is a "demon".

hrm, for some reason, I'm now completely uninspired to correct it. Ah well.

 

[D_E]

I don't see a problem with the Blood War, but I also don't see a problem with not having it. Ironically enough, though, although the 4th ed team was very careful to create a situation where the Blood War can't occure, the personalities and goals they gave to the Demons and Devils make war the most likely outcome if the two groups ever do meet!

 

[ZombieRoboNinja]

I'm pretty sure the Blood War was mentioned as a subplot in Neverwinter Nights, so there would be at least a bit to retcon there. Although I'm not sure the video games are considered "canon."