The Book of Exalted Deeds - It's Here! (merged - full ToC posted)

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Kobold Avenger said:
How Shiradi are different from the Shiere?

They have wings, and instead of turning into balls of faerie light they turn into clouds of glowing shards that can rend flesh and hurt incorporeal creatures. They're Large, and not slender like the shiere. They don't have the ability to disguise themselves. They battle for freedom across the planes instead of defending the eladrin courts. Instead of riding war-horses, they fly. In other words, they have virtually nothing in common except the first three letters of their name. And that they're both eladrins.

The other eladrin breeds are pretty much the same as always, though the tulani have more hit dice and some new abilities.

And out of the celestial index do they even mention any of the Lung Dragons from OA (or anything else from that book)?

They mention the shirokinukatsukami. Nothing else.

Before someone else asks this question, are there Nipple Clamps of Exquisite Pleasure?

Yes. On page 36.

Do Sword Archons still have a ridiculously powerful bite, which I never figured out how it could be that strong based on their size and lack of fangs in 2e?

Shockingly, they changed it so that instead of biting people sword archons use swords.

The origin of the bite attack was that in the 1e Manual of the Planes and in the 2nd edition Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix sword archons had cats' heads. In Planes of Law, Tony DiTerlizzi drew them with human heads and beaklike noses for some reason, but their feline bite remained for some other reason.

No bite, now, or beak. They have arms that turn into holy flaming longswords. I think it's better this way.
 
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Endur said:
It would have to be a sorceror, not a wizard. A wizard wouldn't be able to own spellbooks and maintain the vow of poverty.

Sorry, I don't have the book yet (stupid Wizards Australia), but what is the condition for the Vow of Poverty?
 

GroverCleaveland said:
See what I mean about inexactness? The maintainance of the cosmic balance doesn't depend on an ultraloth and a leonal arm wrestling every fifty years, so they don't have to be exactly matched in combat prowess. The celestials just have to be able to keep the fiends fighting one another and the Devil weighted down in his hole. And they have the angels on their side.

I don't think you have to tell UK this. He does have some knowledge about the relationships between extraplanar creatures. ;)


The book seems to be quite interesting, and I'll try to get my hands on it as soon as possible. :)
 

I have no idea how previous D&D editions handled celestial hierarchies, but is there anything in BoED taken from the Bible for example? The Throne Archons immediately sound like the Thrones, but I guess they might be the only example. I thought it would have been nice to have celestial hierarchies and creatures in general designed around real religions legends (obviously, not only the Bible), at least partially, and I thought about this when I read that the book was mature audiences-oriented because of inspiration drawn from real myths. What exactly has been taken from real myths?
 

I know that Guardinals and Eladrins (and Rilmani) first came from the Blood Wars Card game, but did anyone actually buy that card game? It's not like I bought Spellfire at any point, even when I did bother with collectable card games (and only magic) during the initial craze.

The BoED still hasn't arrived to my part of Canada yet...

It's sounds like Vow of Poverty is too unbalanced for my campaign when every class gets a Class Defense Progression (the numbers being +7, +9, and +11 for different classes at 20th level). Monks may have been replaced with the more versatile martial artist (who can be any alignment), but they're one of the classes with that +11 bonus. I've limited non-epic AC bonuses from magic items to being +3, because of my house rules. So it sounds like I'll really have to limit any AC bonus that feat gives.

If that feat is that powerful, do the other feats in the book put Vile feats to shame?

I'm guessing that all Swanmays are female just like they previously were.

Does the Troubadour of the Stars get anything like Divine Grace? Because I've been waiting for any Bard Prestige Class that gives out such an ability.

Do they mention anything about the Eladrin and the Fey? Eladrin always resembled to me what Faeries should have actually been like in D&D, rather than what we got for most Fey creatures.
 


Gez: no, they're just like normal feats except as follows.

Only intelligent creatures of good alignment and the highest moral standards can acquire exalted feats, and only as a give from powerful agents of good--deities, celestials, or similar creatures. These feats are thus supernatural in nature (rather than being extraordinary abilities, as most feats are).

You need the DM's permission to take an exalted feat, and if you commit an evil act you lose all the benefits of it until you atone. In a neat touch, anyone with an exalted feat also radiates an aura of good, just like a good cleric.

Here is a list of the exalted feats:

Animal Friend
Celestial Familiar
Celestial Mount
Consecreate Spell Trigger
Exalted Companion
Exalted Smite
Exalted Spell Resistance
Exalted Turning
Exalted Wild Shpae
Favored of the Companions
Fist of the Heavens
Gift of Faith
Gift of Grace
Hands of a Healer
Holy Ki Strike
Holy Radiance
Holy Subdual
Intuitive Attack
Knight of Stars
Nemesis
Nimbus of Light
Nymph's Kiss
Purify Spell Trigger
Quell the Profane
Ranged Smite Evil
Righteous Wrath
Sacred Strike
Sacred Vow
Sanctify Ki strike
Sanctify Martial Strike
Sanctify Natural Attack
Sanctify Weapon
Servant of the Heavens
Stigmata
Touch of Golden Ice
Vow of Abstinence
Vow of Chastity
Vow of Nonviolence
Vow of Obedience
Vow of Peace
Vow of Poverty
Vow of Purity
Words of Creation

And no, I'm not going to tell you the pre-reqs for them or what they do. Buy the book!
 

Then could someone explain me that ?

Endur said:
If you think vow of poverty doesn't match magic items, try building a human monk with a vow of poverty. :)

Human Monk
Feats
level 1: Sacred Vow, Vow of Poverty, Nymph’s Kiss, Stunning Fist
level 2: Intuitive Attack, Deflect Arrows
level 3: Improved Grapple
level 4: Touch of Golden Ice
level 6: Servant of the Heavens, Improved Trip, Weapon Focus Unarmed Strike
level 8: Gift of Faith
level 9: Power Attack
level 10: Sanctify Ki Strike
level 12: Holy Ki Strike, Improved Critical Unarmed Strike
level 14: Exalted Spell Resistance
level 15: Cleave
level 16: Fist of the Heavens
level 18: Nimbus of Light,
level 20:

This leaves one Exalted Feat not taken yet (20) and one general feat not selected (18).
 



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