D&D General The Crab Bucket Fallacy

[Crimson Longinus]

What is a moderate task to you?

DC 15.

And again this is 50% with above average raw talent of 14.

And that’s fine. I literally don’t understand why you think this is a problem.

 

[payn]

But I've seen a lot of people that play 5e bounce off of PF2e, and it's not because of the brand. It's because they don't want that type of math. Which is also okay. Not everything works for everyone.

/Raises hand

I will say PF2 plays a bit better for me with proficiency without level variant, but yeah I dont like the tight math based on level. Feels artificial in play and is entirely too predictable. Though, if you really dont like 3E/5E math, PF2 is likely what the doctor ordered.

 

[AnotherGuy]

/Raises hand

I will say PF2 plays a bit better for me with proficiency without level variant, but yeah I dont like the tight math based on level. Feels artificial in play and is entirely too predictable. Though, if you really dont like 3E/5E math, PF2 is likely what the doctor ordered.

Damn, now I'm curious.

 

[payn]

Damn, now I'm curious.

PF2 is a really good game.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Actually, neither 3e nor 4e supported either of the terrible principles BA is meant to support.

If you think bounded accuracy is terrible then just walk away. It is a core assumption of the game so if you don’t like it it is time to find another game.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

PF2 is a really good game.

Agree. If you like tight, consistent, and integrated math ... it is a great game! As others have alluded, it is similar (not the same ... but similar) to 4e in many ways.

On the other hand, if you like things more loosey-goosey, and enjoy ease-of-homebrew and the ability to quickly adjudicate and/or modify "on the fly" without worrying too much about the math ... it is, IMO, definitely not the game for you.

As I keep stating, not everything works for everyone.

 

[Vaalingrade]

One would think that after years of trying, one might notice I don't listen to attempts to run me out of the game.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

One would think that after years one might notice I don't listen to attempts to run me out of the game.

Right. Instead you keep hating it and complaining on forums that this hamburger is terrible because it doesn’t taste like pizza, instead of just getting a pizza. It is your prerogative but everyone can make up their own mind about how productive it is.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Right. Instead you keep hating it and complaining on forums that this hamburger is terrible because it doesn’t taste like pizza, instead of just getting a pizza. It is your prerogative but everyone can make up their own mind about how productive it is.

The food here is terrible ... and the portions are so small!

 

[Vaalingrade]

The ignore button is right there if you don't want to hear my critiques. Because harassment isn't going to silence me.