D&D General The Crab Bucket Fallacy


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I really, really miss gaming in the '90s.
Ironically gaming, for me, in the 90s was mostly Storyteller and Champions, I kept my AD&D campaign running, but less and less frequently, for the first half of the decade, when I finally wrapped in '95 I had, like, 2 original players and some 'guest stars' treating it as a one-shot. :confused:
 



It's more than 4e.

Where is the mystic swordsman... the pro wrestler.. plant race.. the aberrant race... the giant swords... the pet class... the magic mutant... the chaos knight...tiny race in the magic mecha suit... playable werewolves.
Off the top of my head:
  • There are about six mystic swordsmen including the Eldritch Knight, the Bladesinger, the Hexblade, the Pact of the Blade, some of the Paladins, and the Bards of Swords and Valour.
  • They just put out a fizzle of a pro wrestler in the latest Unearthed Arcana
  • Plants are a problem
  • Kender are an aberrant race
    • Being more serious the Plasmids qualify here
  • I'm not sure what you mean "giant swords"
  • There are several pet-choices including Beastmaster, Wildfire Druid, Pact of the Chain, and more
  • What do you mean "magic mutant"
  • Chaos knight - Pact of the Blade or some sort of Paladin?
  • Tiny knight in mecha suit - Armourer Artificer
  • Playable werewolves - Beast Barbarian or Shifter from Eberron.
Where's urban fantasy... spaceship science fantasy...
Eberron and Spelljammer
5e is tame.

Can't even be a werewolf.
Yes you can (just about). There is no D&D which is more gonzo than 5e relative to the number of books it has. It's just got two Everything books and a handful of subclasses in other sources. It's lean more than tame.
 

Ironically gaming, for me, in the 90s was mostly Storyteller and Champions, I kept my AD&D campaign running, but less and less frequently, for the first half of the decade, when I finally wrapped in '95 I had, like, 2 original players and some 'guest stars' treating it as a one-shot. :confused:
For me it was 1e/2e, Deadlands, Cyberpunk, L5R, TSR Marvel. A veritable golden age!
 

Off the top of my head:
  • There are about six mystic swordsmen including the Eldritch Knight, the Bladesinger, the Hexblade, the Pact of the Blade, some of the Paladins, and the Bards of Swords and Valour.
  • They just put out a fizzle of a pro wrestler in the latest Unearthed Arcana
  • Plants are a problem
  • Kender are an aberrant race
    • Being more serious the Plasmids qualify here
  • I'm not sure what you mean "giant swords"
  • There are several pet-choices including Beastmaster, Wildfire Druid, Pact of the Chain, and more
  • What do you mean "magic mutant"
  • Chaos knight - Pact of the Blade or some sort of Paladin?
  • Tiny knight in mecha suit - Armourer Artificer
  • Playable werewolves - Beast Barbarian or Shifter from Eberron.

Eberron and Spelljammer

Yes you can (just about). There is no D&D which is more gonzo than 5e relative to the number of books it has. It's just got two Everything books and a handful of subclasses in other sources. It's lean more than tame.
Spelljammer has nothing to do with science-anything.
 

There is no D&D which is more gonzo than 5e relative to the number of books it has.
That is a completely unfair qualifier.
For me it was 1e/2e, Deadlands, Cyberpunk, L5R, TSR Marvel. A veritable golden age!
Ohh, Deadlands, that was one of those games that I never got a chance to play but sounded pretty awesome... I did get to play a little weird west here and there in Mage and Hero System, tho... It's a wild(pi) little sub-genre with not a lot of examples. (Wild Wild West, 7 Faces of Dr Lao, er... um... Valley of Gwangi?)
 


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