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5.5E "The Future of D&D" (New Core Books in 2024!)

The online D&D Celebration event, which has been running all weekend, comes to a close with The Future of D&D, a panel featuring WotC's Ray Winninger, Liz Schuh, Chris Perkins, and Jeremy Crawford, hosted by Elle Osili-Wood.

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D&D is exploring the multiverse
Revisiting classic settings. 1st of 3 settings (Ravenloft) released this year. Next year, the other two major classic D&D settings come out. Both in formats they've never published products before.

Plus a "little peek" at a third classic D&D setting - a cameo.

In 2023, yet another classic setting is coming out.

Evolving D&D
Because of new players, they're always listening. Exploring new styles of play (like no combat needed in Wild Beyond the Witchlight). Also presentation of monsters and spells. New product formats. More adventure anthologies.

Making products easier to use. Ways to create the best experience. Experimenting and looking into technology.

Approaches to Design
Wild Beyond the Witchlight has interior design and tools to make running the adventure easier. Story tracker, guidance.

Beyond the books, they want to make different and varied products - packaging and form factor. Things different to hardcovers and boxed sets.

A blog post is coming soon detailing some of the changes, with more to come in future posts.

50th Anniversary in 2024
They've begun work on new versions of the core rulebooks. Recent surveys tie into that. They're still making plans, but expect more surveys. More will be said next year.

They will be completely compatible!

New experiences in the digital arena.

January Gift Set
Rules Expansion Gift Set -- Xanathar, Tasha, and a new book: Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse. All in a slipcase. Was intended for the Holidays, but global production issues mean January instead. There's also an alternate cover version.

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Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse
A treasure trove of creature related material from previous products compiled into one book and updated.

Opportunity to update material with a feel for how the 50th Anniversary books will be.

Improvements based on feedback, rebalancing, new and old art.

Over 250 monsters, and 30 playable races. All of the setting agnostic races that have been published outside the Player's Handbook.

Some content from Witchlight, Fizban's, and Strixhaven was influenced by Mordenkainen's.

Available first in the gift set, but separately later in the year.

Monsters alphabetized throughout rather than using subsections.

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Stat block changes --

Spellcasting trait is gone. Spellcasting action, slimmed down. Spellcasting monsters need less prep.

Spell slots are gone for NPCs. Regular actions that would have once been spells.

It was too easy for a DM to use spells which result in the monster having a too low effective CR.

Monsters can be friends or foes, and some magic will help rather than hinder PCs.

Where are we going?
More adventure anthologies. Another classic setting fairly soon.

Two all-new settings. Completely new. In development stage, an 'exploration' phase, testing the viability of them. They might not see the light of day.

Retooling nostalgia and blending it with new concepts. A blend of things that you know, and things that they have never done before.

In the short term -- more news next month about a new product for 2022 which goes into a new scary place we've never been before.

Boo the miniature giant space hamster
Below is an sketch from Hydro74's alt cover, which features Boo the miniature giant space hamster.

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Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey

overgeeked

B/X Known World
Now that you've made me look at it, I started to wonder why it was $170 USD for 3 x $50 USD books, but checking it out it comes with a $20 USD DMs Screen too (and the slipcase) so it's not a price-hike (which I worried about for a moment).

Though didn't they say that there would be a price-hike next year? Right after announcing record profits?
Yep. Their costs are going up and they have to maintain those record profits so we get to pay more.
 

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ad_hoc

(he/they)
Sorry, late to the party, I did miss this post. I don't have any of these books so I guess the gift set could be a good idea, any idea of the Canadian price ? 199$ CDN I guess? Why there's snapshots with Volo's ? Thanks!

Where do you shop?

The typical price that I pay for hobby game stuff is the USD MSRP.

So if something is $150 USD MSRP I pay $150 CAD.

Sometimes it can be a bit less depending on store and product.
 

reelo

Adventurer
To be honest, I like Kitchen Sinks, I like big tents and I cannot lie. Every tavern is the Mos Eisley Cantina, every party a ramshackle array of creature types.
I don't. But then again, I prefer fantasy to be a little more grounded in reality. And if there is (fantasy) racism and segregation, then it is precisely in order to explore difficult subject matters in a not-real environment.
As the world becomes more of a global village, we should embrace and share and blend our various cultures using imagination, versatility and the rule of gonzo rather than fence them off and keep their gates.
Gonzo can be fun. As can be historical fantasy. It's all a matter of taste and none is more (or less) valod than the other.
 


Xeviat

Community Supporter
Supporter
Is it about the action economy? Simply giving a single creature more attacks is easy enough to do.
It's about PC damage numbers being really high and monster HP not being very high to match. This is exacerbated when the players feel like it's a big scary fight, because they're apt to nova and then chew something down in one round.

A fighter action surging and dumping a few superiority dice, a caster using their highest level spells, a paladin smiting on multiple hits... solos go down fast.
 

ad_hoc

(he/they)
Wow. Lucky you - that's like getting 30% off all the time! Do you live somewhere where stores have low overhead?

I live in Toronto.

We have Meeplemart, 401 Games, and Legends Warehouse who all have this kind of pricing.

Legends Warehouse has free shipping across Canada. And then there is Amazon which is good for some products like the main books but terrible for others like minis.
 

Mercador

Explorer
Where do you shop?

The typical price that I pay for hobby game stuff is the USD MSRP.

So if something is $150 USD MSRP I pay $150 CAD.

Sometimes it can be a bit less depending on store and product.
At a local game shop (quite big actually), Imaginaire. At Amazon, it's generally lower than msrp but I prefer support my local store (moreover I can have alt covers).
 

ad_hoc

(he/they)
At a local game shop (quite big actually), Imaginaire. At Amazon, it's generally lower than msrp but I prefer support my local store (moreover I can have alt covers).

I just checked out their store. Their prices are very expensive.

$65 for a book, $25 for an icons booster.

If people are buying it I guess it works for them.

Legends Warehouse has the alt cover books for $52 CAD and they ship for free on orders over $150.
 

FitzTheRuke

Legend
I just checked out their store. Their prices are very expensive.

$65 for a book, $25 for an icons booster.

If people are buying it I guess it works for them.

Legends Warehouse has the alt cover books for $52 CAD and they ship for free on orders over $150.
Yeah we don't set the MSRP. Unfortunately, us smaller FLGS seem to be the only stores that have to abide by them. Amazon marks books up by only like $5 above cost, but they sell them in the hundreds of thousands of units. If I marked a D&D book up by only $5, it would barely cover the income of the clerk who's ringing it in.
 

Tallifer

Hero
Gonzo can be fun. As can be historical fantasy. It's all a matter of taste and none is more (or less) valid than the other.
As an historian I try to hint at as much of history as I can when I run or play, but I fear that Wizards of the Coast has to steer clear of most historical facts to avoid offense and provide fun for a wider audience. (First edition Pendragon took the opposite tack.)
 

Mercador

Explorer
I just checked out their store. Their prices are very expensive.

$65 for a book, $25 for an icons booster.

If people are buying it I guess it works for them.

Legends Warehouse has the alt cover books for $52 CAD and they ship for free on orders over $150.
I really like them so I pay the FLGS tax nonetheless. On a plus side, the book I purchase is in perfect state, that I cannot say when I got a book from Amazon (or any shipping that is). For a collection book (or book set in that case cough), I want them pristine.
 

ad_hoc

(he/they)
I really like them so I pay the FLGS tax nonetheless. On a plus side, the book I purchase is in perfect state, that I cannot say when I got a book from Amazon (or any shipping that is). For a collection book (or book set in that case cough), I want them pristine.

I guess your answer then as to the Canadian price is: 'it varies'.
 

Mercador

Explorer
I guess your answer then as to the Canadian price is: 'it varies'.
Yeah... well, generally, WotC show their prices in CAD as well so I'm a bit surprised there's no indication of it right now on that book, the new design of the website doesn't show CAD prices anymore.
 

Mercador

Explorer
Yeah, it's really more expensive, the box set is 134$ CAD on Amazon...

 

As an historian I try to hint at as much of history as I can when I run or play, but I fear that Wizards of the Coast has to steer clear of most historical facts to avoid offense and provide fun for a wider audience. (First edition Pendragon took the opposite tack.)
Yeah, it's a real shame. Whenever I teach history nowadays I find it can be difficult to convey the value of the past to modern eyes, as from their perspective everyone was so completely awful to each other even quite recently that it makes it hard for them to focus on anything else. The modern emphasis on diversity and cultural respect is a very, very recent phenomenon historically.
 


dave2008

Legend
It's about PC damage numbers being really high and monster HP not being very high to match. This is exacerbated when the players feel like it's a big scary fight, because they're apt to nova and then chew something down in one round.

A fighter action surging and dumping a few superiority dice, a caster using their highest level spells, a paladin smiting on multiple hits... solos go down fast.
Isn't this the exact type of situation that Mythic monsters are set up for?
 

Jaeger

That someone better.
Games Workshop takes quite a bit of heat for not previewing their products very much and just releasing them. After wading through a lot of the comments in this thread - I can see why they use that approach.

I actually think WOTC is making a mistake hinting at things three years out, but it is their baby.

WotC said in their video that they were going to do a new round of surveys on how to make the 50th ‘not-edition’ better.

I would take this to mean that they will eventually do a playtest of some kind at least a year ahead of the 2024 release.
 



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