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The Hobbit

Brown Jenkin said:
Well Bilbo was 50 when he went on his adventure. Makeup can probably manage that.

Well, yes... but there are some problems with that, if you wanted to stick to the books:

- Hobbits come of age at 33, and generally speaking, seem (not hugely, but still significantly so) longer-lived than humans.

- In the novel, Frodo is also 50 when he sets off from Hobbiton. (Bilbo leaves for Rivendell when Frodo is 33, then the ring stays hidden for 17 years as Gandalf researches things)
 

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mmu1 said:
Well, yes... but there are some problems with that, if you wanted to stick to the books:

- Hobbits come of age at 33, and generally speaking, seem (not hugely, but still significantly so) longer-lived than humans.

- In the novel, Frodo is also 50 when he sets off from Hobbiton. (Bilbo leaves for Rivendell when Frodo is 33, then the ring stays hidden for 17 years as Gandalf researches things)

Yes Frodo should have been 50 when the LotR starts. Remember though that the ring effectively stops aging (or hugely increases lifespan, see Gollum). So whichever way we look at the LotR movie (17 year gap or not) Frodo would still look the same from the party till when he sets out which would be 33. Same goes for Bilbo. From when Bilbo finds the ring until his farewell party he would look the same age. So all they have to do is make Ian Holm look like he did for the intro to the first movie (where we see him get the ring) and at the party.
 

Brown Jenkin said:
Yes Frodo should have been 50 when the LotR starts. Remember though that the ring effectively stops aging (or hugely increases lifespan, see Gollum). So whichever way we look at the LotR movie (17 year gap or not) Frodo would still look the same from the party till when he sets out which would be 33. Same goes for Bilbo. From when Bilbo finds the ring until his farewell party he would look the same age. So all they have to do is make Ian Holm look like he did for the intro to the first movie (where we see him get the ring) and at the party.

I'd disagree with that, as far as the book is concerned - I think that Bilbo and Gollum were examples of what happens as a result of nearly constant and somewhat frivolous, respectively, use of the ring, and that in each case, their slowed aging also corresponded to how much influence the ring had over them... Frodo, on the other hand, hardly used the ring at all. But that's getting pretty subjective, and a matter of opinion...

As far as the movie goes, though, there'd be no way of telling anyway. After all, the ring sits around lying in a chest, sealed in an envelope, until Gandalf comes back...
 
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Darth Shoju said:
I'm hoping Peter Jackson will direct this movie but I'm confident there is another director out there that could pull it off too. Also hoping WETA does the special effects.
Like who, Quentin Tarentino? Martin Scorsese? Heaven and Hell and Purgatory in-between forbid it should be Courtney Solomon.

*damn, I want my rolleye smiley!*
 



Ranger REG said:
Like who, Quentin Tarentino? Martin Scorsese? Heaven and Hell and Purgatory in-between forbid it should be Courtney Solomon.

*damn, I want my rolleye smiley!*

I have no idea. I was really just reacting to what that second article was saying about Peter Jackson saying he's never spoken to a studio about directing the Hobbit, although he would be interested. Now, I have my misgivings about the veracity of said article, but it does instill some doubt as to whether PJ will be directing. That being said, while he is obviously my first choice to direct, I think it is naive to think there aren't any other talented directors in Hollywood (despite all evidence to the contrary it seems...such as Mr. Solomon, Mr. Harlin, Mr. Boll...).

Maybe Bollywood has a director that can handle the Hobbit?

:p
 
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We all hope the rumors are true, but at the same time I would rather they take their time in filming it, and creating the special effects for it. I would rather a wait a few more years to see a great movie, then see an ok movie in a couple of years. Let Jackson's schedule clear up a bit.
 

If Bilbo's true appearance at 111 is what is shown later in Rivendell, then a slight makeup job can let Sir Ian Holm play the part in The Hobbit.

Other than that, the only LotR actors you'd need for the movie would be Sir Ian McKellen, Hugo Weaving and possibly cameos by Liv Tyler at Rivendell and Orlando Bloom at Mirkwood.

They will save a lot on the CGI since for most of the movie the only characters onscreen are of the same (reduced) height... :)
 

Ranger REG said:
Like who, Quentin Tarentino? Martin Scorsese? Heaven and Hell and Purgatory in-between forbid it should be Courtney Solomon.

*damn, I want my rolleye smiley!*


(Playing through my head the different versions of the Hobbit)
LoL :D


Darth Shoju said:

Uwe Boll :eek: , hey hey hey calm down theres no need for that kinda talk
 

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