The Immortals Handbook

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Hey CRGreathouse mate! :)

CRGreathouse said:
First, it would be great if we had interesting questions for the Krust... somethiong better than, "When will it be done?".

Well thats an interesting question, but its just been done to death. :o

CRGreathouse said:
Second, we know he doesn't like to be pinned down on dates. Maybe we should just ask him for progress in terms of pages written (xxx/yyy) and pages typed (zzz/yyy)?

Difficult to say, its mostly just a lot of donkey work left. Theres a lot of pages that are typed up but need 'fixed' (for want of a better term). Theres also some of the definition explanations still to do.

CRGreathouse said:
In any case, U_K, good luck finishing up the book. I'm likely to pick up the Apotheosis PDF (at least) and I'll surely buy the print book.

I appreciate the support mate. ;)
 

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Hi Knight Otu mate! :)

Knight Otu said:
Well, how about:
What about the Cosmocrats (I know you gave them a different name later on, but I don't seem to remember it)?

Well I wanted to have a near-omnipotent super monster relative to every dimension (I have the dimensions* mapped using the kabbalah). So I have a group of mega beings called the Chronocrators who police one of the dimensions.

*Dimensions are not the same as planes in case you were wondering. ;)
 

Hi Anubis matey! :)

Anubis said:
Yeah, well, I hope he skips the PDFs and goes straight to print. Anything else and he's being like old TSR trying to get payment multiple times for the same piece of work. :uhoh:

So PLEASE go straight to print! I don't wanna have to wait another six months to get the damn book! I hate PDFs!

Well I could just give away months of work for free...oh wait I already did that with the CR/EL system.

As for trying to get payment for the same work twice, no one is forcing you to buy anything?

Not to mention they are probably going to be (pound for pound) the cheapest pdfs ever.

Not to mention doing the pdfs is not actually slowing the print version.

Not to mention some people actually want the pdf and not the print version.

Not to mention I am broke - in fact I'll go one better I am actually in debt, I haven't been able to even afford printer ink for some months.

Not to mention if I actually don't make some money off this you can all kiss goodbye to any future stuff on detailing individually Pantheons; Immortal settings and the like.

So y'know, while I respect your opinion Anubis mate I'll be going ahead with the pdfs.
 



If I recall correctly the pdfs are like partial publications of the work, thus he will be releasing something for us to hold our interest and anxiety while still developing he whole thing. While I prefer print books to any pdf I see the use and fairness of its existence, not to mention that pdfs are easier to get for me, pricewise and importing-wise.

Anyway, UK, I am still on lookout for this, specially if it will be useful outside of D&D 3.X edition, since I feel like no book has ever givent the subject a more general AND specific approach that are really standing. ;)
 

Anubis said:
Yeah, well, I hope he skips the PDFs and goes straight to print. Anything else and he's being like old TSR trying to get payment multiple times for the same piece of work. :uhoh:

So PLEASE go straight to print! I don't wanna have to wait another six months to get the damn book! I hate PDFs!

You don't want to wait another 6 months? Huh, I am guessing it would be a minimum of an additional 2 months just to get layout and formatting done from the printers. Then you have to check that it is all good and the printer didn't goof anything too badly. Submit any mistakes for correction, and repeat. Of course, unless he is thinking of paying for printing, and handlig distribution entirely by himself, the actual publisher handle all of this. However, that means that you can add in more time for paper shuffling and similar activities. I think if he were finished tonight, it would be 2-3 months minimum before you saw any book on the shelves. Quite likely, it would take longer.

I'm just basing that on the little bit I have picked up from Malhavoc Press' products. By my understanding, Monte usually sends the finished product to Sword & Sorcery Studios at the same time he begins the PDF. The PDF is usually available much sooner.

So you hate PDF's? *shrug* That's your preference. I happen to like them. If the PDF's of the Immortal's Handbook were on RPGNow, I would buy them now. Then, I would decide if I wanted to purchase the bound book later. It might be nice to have it as a bound book and it might look nifty next to my other books.

As for your comment that Upper_Krust is trying to milk you for money just like old TSR, that is certainly your opinion and you are welcome to it. I respectfully disagree. I am the only one that chooses how I spend my money. If I want the Immortal's Handbook in a bound format, after purchasing the PDF's, then I will make that purchase. If I don't want it, I won't. I don't think Upper_Krust will have his feelings hurt if I only buy his product once.

Anyway, that is enough derailment.

Upper_Krust, I am still anxiously awaiting the arrival of the PDF's. In my cosmology, I have different Gods (no big surprise there). I also have lesser powers that are not on the same level as the other gods. Sometimes, these powers will choose to fall under the purview of one of the Gods and expect that god to represent their interests on an equal footing with the other gods. I am sure I can easily model that with the Immortals Handbook, but do you have any quick thoughts on it?

I am also putting together a god(dess) that manages legends and power. This will be the basis for success for spells like Legend Lore and Vision. As well, everyone that goes "Epic" must satisfy this god(dess) by performing a quest to prove their worth. On the surface, this god(dess) sounds somewhat powerful. But, in my cosmology, this is a relatively recent development. I want this being to have dominion over legends and power, but still be subservient to the greater gods. The greater gods kind of delegated this office to this being, but they can revoke it if this being handles it poorly. Any suggestions on how I would implement that?

As always, Thanks!
 

Whoops! A whole other page of posts/replies that I missed. I will leave my post stand intact even though Upper_Krust has stated his position on it.
 

Hi Anabstercorian mate! :)

Anabstercorian said:
Upper Krust, I think you were about 12 or 20 times too polite. I would have reamed him for that.

Well it would be self defeating to chastise Anubis for simply saying hes really looking forward to my book. Even if his manner in doing so was a touch abrasive.

Anabstercorian said:
Anyhow, I pledge to buy the Immortal's Guide.

I appreciate the support mate! :)
 

Hi Nifelhein matey! :)

Nifelhein said:
If I recall correctly the pdfs are like partial publications of the work, thus he will be releasing something for us to hold our interest and anxiety while still developing he whole thing. While I prefer print books to any pdf I see the use and fairness of its existence, not to mention that pdfs are easier to get for me, pricewise and importing-wise.

Absolutely. Some people want the pdfs and some people want the print version.

Nifelhein said:
Anyway, UK, I am still on lookout for this, specially if it will be useful outside of D&D 3.X edition, since I feel like no book has ever givent the subject a more general AND specific approach that are really standing. ;)

I am confident the worship points system could be used with any rpg.

Obviously most of the stuff is d20 orientated though.
 

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