You might consider utilizing the names for Graz'zt and the others that Green Ronin did in Armies of the Abyss (if that section was OGC at least). Since that product didn't provide stats for them, that allows for further cross-product recognition while pointing people in your direction for the gaming stats.
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Upper_Krust
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Hey all! 
Sorry for the slow response boards still seem a bit sluggish for me.
Anyway, I have been pondering on releasing the first half of the Bestiary (80 pages, 36 monsters for $5) next week.
Naturally anyone who then bought the full Bestiary would get that for half the $10 price.
Any thoughts on the idea? I know it isn't ideal but I'd like to release something as soon as possible, I feel terrible keeping you all waiting.
Hey jcw8705!
Well firstly I don't know if those Green Ronin names are themselves OGL?
Secondly, I no longer have Armies of the Abyss (I gave it to S'mon) - I was planning on buying the Book of Fiends but haven't got round to that yet. So I can't recall the names offhand.
One other point of OGL I'm worried about is that I want the first monster in the book - the Amilictli (Abomination) to be able to summon Thunder Worms (from the Fiend Folio - offhand I can't recall if its the Fiend Folio or the Monster Manual 2. Can I even mention that as a summons or will I have to change that to Air Elemental I wonder?
Sorry for the slow response boards still seem a bit sluggish for me.
Anyway, I have been pondering on releasing the first half of the Bestiary (80 pages, 36 monsters for $5) next week.
Naturally anyone who then bought the full Bestiary would get that for half the $10 price.
Any thoughts on the idea? I know it isn't ideal but I'd like to release something as soon as possible, I feel terrible keeping you all waiting.
Hey jcw8705!
jcw8705 said:
Well firstly I don't know if those Green Ronin names are themselves OGL?
Secondly, I no longer have Armies of the Abyss (I gave it to S'mon) - I was planning on buying the Book of Fiends but haven't got round to that yet. So I can't recall the names offhand.
One other point of OGL I'm worried about is that I want the first monster in the book - the Amilictli (Abomination) to be able to summon Thunder Worms (from the Fiend Folio - offhand I can't recall if its the Fiend Folio or the Monster Manual 2. Can I even mention that as a summons or will I have to change that to Air Elemental I wonder?
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Unless you or your publisher can get permission from WotC for material not in the SRD (and the FF is not in the SRD), consider that material as off-limits. That's the safest route to take.
*smuggles a few puppies out and replaces them with hell hound puppies*
*smuggles a few puppies out and replaces them with hell hound puppies*
CRGreathouse
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Upper_Krust said:
I'd love that.
Alzrius
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Upper_Krust said:Hey all!
Sorry for the slow response boards still seem a bit sluggish for me.
Anyway, I have been pondering on releasing the first half of the Bestiary (80 pages, 36 monsters for $5) next week.
Naturally anyone who then bought the full Bestiary would get that for half the $10 price.
Any thoughts on the idea? I know it isn't ideal but I'd like to release something as soon as possible, I feel terrible keeping you all waiting.
I'll probably get lynched for saying this, but I think it's a bad idea. Rushed releases never, in my experience, have favorable results. There's always something that you'd have done differently, or included, etc. While I feel the waiting as much as anyone here, I'd rather have a truly great product later than one that's just good now.
I don't own The Book of Fiends, but I do have my copy of Armies of the Abyss handy. According to the designation of OGC on page 1, the "name, statistics, and obedience of each demon prince in Chapter Three" are OGC. Note that the listed names there are Abaddon, Abraxus, Anarazel, Astaroth, Azazel, Azidahaka, Behemoth, Decarabia, Eligor, Flauros, Gamigin, Haagenti, Ipos, Marbas, Nocticula, Raum, Sabnach, Seere, Shax, Socothbenoth, and Vepar. I don't know if more were added or not in The Book of Fiends.
To be succinct, you can't mention Thunder Worms. None of the content in the MMII or FF is OGC. WotC is supposed to be relatively nice about giving permission, but that must be specially sought and obtained. Your one point of "wiggle room" might be if you could make a case that your Thunder Worms aren't those from the Fiend Folio (where their stats are), but that would be cutting it rather close, and you'd then have to have some other source with monsters named that.
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CRGreathouse
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This reasoning is exactly why I want it released now. He'll release the whole thing later, so we'll get everything done differently -- as it should have been -- the second time around, with our discount too. A bit of cash flow should ease problems on Craig's side, and let him do the complete work the right way.
That is, I think by releasing it now we *improve* the chances that the finished product will be great, not reduce them.
Upper_Krust
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Hey Knight Otu mate!
Fair enough, well unfortunately thats going to have to be *yawn* Air Elementals then.
When I release it I'll make sure to note on the website that it should have been Thunder Worms.
Good idea.
Knight Otu said:Unless you or your publisher can get permission from WotC for material not in the SRD (and the FF is not in the SRD), consider that material as off-limits. That's the safest route to take.
Fair enough, well unfortunately thats going to have to be *yawn* Air Elementals then.
When I release it I'll make sure to note on the website that it should have been Thunder Worms.
Knight Otu said:
Good idea.
Upper_Krust
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Hey all!
Not sure if you are contented or asking for the contents?
Suffice to say it would be the first 36 monsters on the list on the website. Which offhand I think is Amilictli to Grigori.
One change would be that I am going to replace the Neutronium Golem (which may be too powerful even for me!) with Ioun Golem (I finally figured out how to make that monster work). But don't worry, if I do that I'll release it on the website anyhow.
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Fieari said:
Impeesa said:
Not sure if you are contented or asking for the contents?
Suffice to say it would be the first 36 monsters on the list on the website. Which offhand I think is Amilictli to Grigori.
One change would be that I am going to replace the Neutronium Golem (which may be too powerful even for me!) with Ioun Golem (I finally figured out how to make that monster work). But don't worry, if I do that I'll release it on the website anyhow.
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