D&D (2024) The impending mess that will be backwards compatibility

In any case, it feels like they will need to change something in the descrption used on Amazon (say)...

About this item says: The essential rulebook for Dungeons & Dragons (5th edition)
ASIN: 0786965606
Item model number: WOCA9217
Release date: August 19, 2014

... because otherwise the old version could be sold just like it as far as used copies, right? And just changing the ASIN or Item Model Number feels like it would be confusing. Either something about which printing it is or which version or which edition in big letters somewhere would seem standard?
 

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In any case, it feels like they will need to change something in the descrption used on Amazon (say)...
yes, and what reason do you have to assume that it won’t?

Nobody is hiding the fact that there will be a revision, I am pretty sure there will even be a marketing push to get 5e players to buy it. That is impossible if they wanted to make it indistinguishable
 

Sure it was, but it does not say so. So saying the 1DD PHB somehow has to include a version number when this did not and you had no complaints then is inconsistent.

The new 1DD PHB clearly is not mean to be thought of as the same book, no idea what makes you say so. Compatible does not mean ‘the same book’

Didn't the 4th edition PHB say it was 4th edition on the back cover in the text paragraph and in the blue bar? The 5th edition says it on the back cover too, right?
 
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yes, and what reason do you have to assume that it won’t?

I assume it will. It was sounding like some people were expecting it to still be just D&D Player's Handbook with nothing obvious to differentiate it -- which seemd odd. Other editions seem to have put it right on the front or back cover somewhere.
 



One of the things that was "new to 5e" was the notion of a universal "proficiency bonus." Like the d20 resolution mechanic and the (never since changed) standardized ability score bonuses that were codified with 3e, this is a mechanic that is both brand-new, yet somehow feels 100% like it's something that should have always been in Dungeons & Dragons. If you look at it critically, 5e is a "greatest hits" version of D&D, adhering to the following (Feature and edition where it was part of the initial release):

  • 6 Ability Scores, Levels, Hit Points, Armor Class, Saving Throws, Slot-based Spellcasting (OD&D)
  • Classes: Cleric, Fighter (Fighting Man), and Wizard (Mage/Magic-User) (OD&D)
  • Races: Dwarf, Elf, Halfling (Hobbit), Human (OD&D)
  • Class: Rogue (Thief) (Holmes)
  • Dual-Axis alignment (1e)
  • Classes: Druid, Monk, Paladin, Ranger (1e)
  • Races: Gnome, Half-Elf, Half-Orc (1e)
  • Class: Bard (2e)
  • Subclasses (Kits) (2e)
  • Universal "d20, roll high" resolution mechanic (3e)
  • 3 (-4) -> 18 (+4) bonus table (3e)
  • No restrictions race/class choices (3e)
  • Feats (3e)
  • Skills (3e)
  • Standardized multiclassing (3e)
  • Classes: Barbarian, Sorcerer (3e)
  • "Short Rest" and "Long Rest" recovery mechanics (4e)
  • Class: Warlock (4e)
  • Races: Dragonborn, Tiefling, Drow (4e)

There have been minor adjustments to various subsystems along the way, such as Wildshape becoming more and more of a core feature of the Druid class, or a class's spellcasting being improved (most recently Bards, Paladins, Rangers, but earlier including Clerics and Druids) but the game is honestly starting to settle down.

They tried radically rewriting the game with 4e, and it landed like a lead balloon with the majority of the audience. So 5th-Edition was more like a "4th-Edition - take 2!" that shared much more of its DNA with 3e and the editions before it - which is, I suspect, why they initially resisted actually labeling it "Fifth Edition." And, as I pointed out in my earlier post, the classification of "3rd-Edition" as such is at least moderately suspect.

I honestly don't think Hasbro wants to keep making "New Editions" (TM), so much as just augment the game with supplements they can sell, and just do a revised printing of the PHB/DMG/MM (when it's called for) that modifies things they've learned don't work the way they want them to, or introduces things they want to try out, and just includes a few "changes since the last printing" sidebars.

Going forward, the game is just Dungeons & Dragons. But if you insist on Edition labeling, I guess you can think of the 2024 books as Edition 5.2 or 5.3.
 

Didn't the 4th edition PHB say it was 4th edition on the back cover in the text paragraph and in the blu bar? The 5th edition says it on the back cover too, right?
The back-cover-text on the 2014 PHB refers to its companion books as "the fifth edition Dungeon Master's Guide and Monster Manual," but nowhere in or on the book does it self-identify itself as "fifth edition." Believe me, I just checked quite carefully.
 



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