The Invasion of Mori OOC [3.5][planar][PAUSED]

[Question]

Isnt anyone going to start buffing the party? Haste, cast greater magic weapon on the fighters, etc?

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Nah, you'll all survive, you're fighting machines of doom!

This is the drawback of an evil party...


Just kidding, Gabriel can inspire the lot of you on the victory, or demoralize the kobolds, but he will probably delay a bit to see how the battle goes.

 

[moritheil]

I think the casters would feel pretty embarassed if they tossed a bunch of high-level buffs on the party, and the fight was over in one round.

On another note, I love the detail everyone is going into in their posts. I'll definitely bump up the RP XP in recognition of that. One thing that throws me off when reading, though, is that people have a tendency to change tenses in mid-post, sometimes even more than once in the same paragraph. While I don't care if past or present tense is used, it is a bit jarring to have it change abruptly.

Ringmereth -
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Might I trouble you to post your finalized sheet in the RG? Thanks![/sblock]

Dog Moon -
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Something confuses me - I understand that adding a domain to wizard can be interpreted as getting a domain slot at each level. But how come you have two extra spells per spell level? Am I interpreting your "Divine: spell, Oracle: another spell" notes wrongly?[/sblock]

Isida -
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Gabriel has noticed that Derwydden rarely appears to his minions in person. Rumors state that he is not entirely of fiendish ancestry, but it is impossible to verify or disprove them - at least, until you rise in favor . . . [/sblock]

SG -
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Stating this again just because it might get lost in all the posts - don't forget to change your racial HD back to d8s and roll your hit points. [/sblock]

 

[Voadam]

No need to buff Snargle. He has a ring of acid resistance so when he overeats on kobolds like they were a platter of chicken wings the acid indigestion will not harm him.

 

[Voidrazor]

Voidrazor - Understood. The idea now is to play a rogue kaorti? Sounds interesting. The thrall ability may be a little imbalanced, though it is clear that a great deal of care must be taken to get it to work. No changes will be made to it.

Are kaorti actually fiends in terms of qualification for FoP? Despite their Outsider (extraplanar, evil) status, it isn't immediately clear from the WOTC site exactly what qualifies and what does not qualify for FoP. Does FoP require that a character be tanari'i, baatezu, or yugoloth?

Divine caster restrictions are an RP aspect worth looking at - perhaps your kaorti was outcast because it broke an old taboo against divine magic? The phrenic template will be considered. Is there a reason why this character is triply unusual amongst the kaorti? The concern here is that three degrees of modification on the base concept of kaorti might be a bit much to swallow in terms of continuity.

The listed racial requirement for FoP is outsider with the evil subtype, which I think is also the definition of fiend. So a Tiefling or critter with the fiendish templat wouldn't qualify but Kaorti should.

I'll write up a detailed background in a few days. Basically, I was thinking that Kaorti usually don't transform divine casters because the results are unpredictable. Kaelvorr was already a neutral evil worshiper of the timeless aspects of the Far Realm which puts lie to the linear nature of the Prime Material. Upon encountering a splintered group of Kaorti desperate to increase their numbers, he was more than happy to volunteer. As a fiend, Kaelvorr is obsessed with increasing his own power and influence. But even though he it is a freak among its kind, it does embrace the kaorti ethos an imperitive of encysting new territory. If this new territory can only be accessed by making deals with tanari'i, so be it.

As for the potetial abusability of Vile Transformation, new kaorti may have very different ideas as to how to proceed with the grand plan. It doesn't provide control of those transformed. FoP, on the other hand, is probably a bit broken.

 

[Dog Moon]

Oh right, I forgot to mention I was specializing in Divination and that my restricted school was Evocation [thus I have no Evo spells]. If I'm incorrect in believing that I gain the bonus spells from specialization as well as the Oracle Domain from my Prc, let me know. By Divine, I meant Divination. I will change my character to make this more obvious.

I do have Haste, btw, which I was gonna caste when we got a little bit closer. Unless it's too late, I could quickly pick up Mass Bull's Strength or something, though I assumed that people would already have purchased the Belts of Str. Is there any similar group/buffing spells someone wants me to get before it's too late [assuming it's not already]?

 

[moritheil]

Dog Moon -
That's acceptable. No changes after you actually start casting spells, though.

Voidrazor -
I concur. FoP, however, is allowed unchanged by precedent, and thus a nonissue insofar as consideration.

Regarding the definition of a fiend, it is certain that tanari'i, baatezu, and yugoloths are fiends, but it is less clear if evil outsiders are all technically fiends. Nevertheless, it is a moot point if Outsider (evil) is all that is required.

The main concern remaining is that I'm still not entirely sure as to the viability of having something so unique that it breaks with its base concept in several ways simultaneously - as a fiend of possession, as a phrenic creature, as an individual not living in a cyst, and as a divine caster. Let me clarify that this is not a matter of balance; it is a question of conceptual coherence. (If that isn't clear, consider that, say, a half-dragon, half-centaur, phrenic dwarf is also three degrees of variance - and not really much like what one thinks of when one says "dwarf." ) I am uncertain as to where exactly the line is between "complicated concept" and "unsightly assemblage of templates," but three degrees of variance seems to be close. Is it possible to reduce it to two?

 

[reel_big_gish]

LIkewise, I can give a few people Magic Vestment or Greater Magic Weapon, but that's about the limit of my party-buffing capabilities right now.

 

[Question]

Standard buffs.......im thinking greater magic weapon, haste, maybe a protection/resist from X spell(probably fire).

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Standard buffs from Gabriel's point of view: Dominate Person, Morality Undone, Song of Fury. Well, the first two are on one of the opposing dumb fighter-types. The third is on all friendly fighter-types. Follow that by dirge of discord, wave of grief, and curse of the putrid husk. Maybe a little jarring song if the enemy spellcasters are causing us trouble.