The Last of Us (HBO Max)

payn

Legend
It will be interesting to see how (or if) it differentiates itself apart from the fungus origins of the zombies. I wonder if the different mediums of their sources will make any kind of difference? I'm honestly not sure!
The main difference is that TWD goes from beginning to middle and/or end of the zombie apocalypse. TLOU skips right to the middle/end of it. Both use the zombies/fungal infected as a back drop and focus mainly on the characters and their stories. TLOU just gets right down to it and isnt nearly as repetitive in its story telling as TWD.
 

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Yeah, a lot of the strength of the storytelling in The Last of Us is in the Joel-Ellie relationship and their performances.

On the surface, yes they seem similar. Though, I think there is a more focused story on the two main characters in Last of Us. I find this focused story to be both more engaging and less repetitive than Walking Dead is. YMMV.
 

Mercurius

Legend
I found it a bit...meh. It was OK, I like Pedro Pascal, and generally really enjoy post-apocalypse cinema, but it was kind of...bland? Boring? Tepid? It felt like the Walking Dead, but with different specifics. Not much new, nor anything that really stood out. I'll probably continue for another episode or two to see how it unfolds, but it doesn't feel like a "must watch" show.
 

HaroldTheHobbit

Adventurer
I never played the game, and yes, perhaps a bit bland:ish, but so far Pascal and whatshername actress from GoT has saved it. The bland feeling is probably because zombie overdose, we'll see where the show goes.
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
I suspect I may be enjoying it more than some because...

a) I generally dig this kind of collapse of society/post-apoc story.
b) I gave up on TWD years ago because of the terrible writing, so I'm not currently burnt out on zombies.

I watched... 2-3 seasons of TWD? A couple as they came out, 5-6 years ago with my then-girlfriend who was super into the series, and I think season 1 on my own with the intent to catch up, which fizzled out pretty rapidly. While it had some good stuff in it, overall I was not very impressed. TLoU seems better executed on basically every level.
 
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payn

Legend
I suspect I may be enjoying it more than some because...

a) I generally dig this kind of collapse of society/post-apoc story.
b) I gave up on TWD years ago because of the terrible writing, so I'm not currently burnt out on zombies.

I watched... 2-3 seasons of TWD? A couple as they came out, 5-6 years ago with my then-girlfriend who was super into the series, and I think season 1 on my own with the intent to catch up. But while it had some good stuff in it, overall I was not very impressed. TLoU seems better executed on basically every level.
Pretty much this. The story of TLOU is superior in pretty much every way to TWD. Though, if all you see is zombie and zombie then you wont get into it.
 

Mercurius

Legend
I suspect I may be enjoying it more than some because...

a) I generally dig this kind of collapse of society/post-apoc story.
b) I gave up on TWD years ago because of the terrible writing, so I'm not currently burnt out on zombies.

I watched... 2-3 seasons of TWD? A couple as they came out, 5-6 years ago with my then-girlfriend who was super into the series, and I think season 1 on my own with the intent to catch up, which fizzled out pretty rapidly. While it had some good stuff in it, overall I was not very impressed. TLoU seems better executed on basically every level.
I pretty much agree with this, although watched TWD a couple more seasons, until Negan showed up and we saw Glen's eyes divorced from his body. At that point I said "enough is enough."

My complaint about TLoU is not strongly held...I'm just not feeling the instant love of it that the (HBO-driven) hype machine seems to imply that I should be feeling ("Hey everyone, this is the Next Thing!") and don't (yet) feel like I'd be sad if it were cancelled. Who knows, that might change.

That said, I do wish we could see a more diverse range of post-apocalyptic stories, that aren't all about how horrible people can be to each other, and survival of the fittest. We need more to our cultural mythologies other than good old Social Darwinism.

A couple years ago I read the classic Earth Abides, which does have a virus of some kind as the causative factor, but focuses more on people trying to rebuild a micro-society after, and issues around loss of knowledge and history. It is a very slow-paced, non-action driven story. It probably wouldn't translate well to film or a modern day audience without more drama and action, but is an example of a different type of post-apocalyptic story.

These shows almost always focus on the more sensational elements of survival and human corruption...I'd like to see a show in which the underlying sentiment isn't "people suck," but "people can work together, but there are still problems to deal with."
 

payn

Legend
I pretty much agree with this, although watched TWD a couple more seasons, until Negan showed up and we saw Glen's eyes divorced from his body. At that point I said "enough is enough."
You could tell at this point that the writers were no longer aiming for a good story and purely operating on fan service. I don't think TLOU will go there. Though, when things get popular all bets are off. Even GoT got real bad in the final seasons.
 

Bolares

Hero
That said, I do wish we could see a more diverse range of post-apocalyptic stories, that aren't all about how horrible people can be to each other, and survival of the fittest.
In the last of us (at least the first game) I think that "how horrible people can be to each other" is just a tool used to help build a story about a relationship between two characters.
The Last of Us isn't about zombies, it isn't about society, it isn't about humanity.... it's about Joel and Ellie.
 

Bolares

Hero
You could tell at this point that the writers were no longer aiming for a good story and purely operating on fan service. I don't think TLOU will go there. Though, when things get popular all bets are off. Even GoT got real bad in the final seasons.
well, that was taken directly from the comic book. It was the "gift" kirkman gave the community for the (I think) 100th edition of the comic.
 

payn

Legend
well, that was taken directly from the comic book. It was the "gift" kirkman gave the community for the (I think) 100th edition of the comic.
Im not talking about what happened, im talking about how it happened. They toyed with the audience a lot. Added unnecessary filler, talking dead water cooler show, video game tie ins, spin off promotions, online only series, etc..
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
My wife and I just watched it and really enjoyed it. We don't own a Playstation and while I have a general idea of what happens in each game, she does not.

If this was an episode of the Walking Dead, it'd be the best episode outside of the TWD premiere. Nice to see a zombie apocalypse where everyone doesn't turn into cartoonish villains. (Yes, let's become cannibals in the American South, which is already neck-deep in whitetail deer without a zombie apocalypse. That 100% makes sense.)

Uniformly great cast.
 

payn

Legend
So, im a bit torn.

The clicker art was fantastic! The scene at the museum was great. I think folks unfamiliar with the game will get a lot out of it, and again, fans of the game will certainly approve.

Did not care for the change to Tess's last stand. I loved how her sacrifice went down in the game. Also, she got to go out a bad ass the way she was. This change felt a bit off. I guess the showrunners wanted to show the fungal assimilation is not always violent. I dont know I feel like at this point with everything Tess has been through she would be ready for this eventuality and not be so afraid. Then again, who is in the face of death?

The fungal vein communication is interesting. Though, it makes encountering an infected seem like survivability went from low to null.
 



Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
If anything the show has toned it down a notch.

So far the show has been absolutely excellent. From a story and setting perspective Boston is the roughest part of the game. It's all up-hill from here.

What remains to be seen is if the most important character from the game makes it into the show:
Ellie's Joke Book. No joke book is an immediate 0/10 review from me.
 

payn

Legend
If anything the show has toned it down a notch.

So far the show has been absolutely excellent. From a story and setting perspective Boston is the roughest part of the game. It's all up-hill from here.

What remains to be seen is if the most important character from the game makes it into the show:
Ellie's Joke Book. No joke book is an immediate 0/10 review from me.
Yeah no joke book, but the "you're a weird kid" line had me busting a laugh.
 


TreChriron

Explorer
Supporter
I watched the premier and episode 2 on Sunday. I'm really digging the concept. I don't play videogames these days, but the story has me intrigued. I love the idea of Cordyceps zombies. It is truly a terrifying scenario.
 


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