If I may speak for a moment Commandant, Depending on how we perform these inspections... it would be rather foolish to extend our forces to three planets at once even if it just in orbit, we are in hostile territory after all she pressed her fingers together As for our foe, if they are purely AI, could we not just capture one and feed it false data to gain tactical information? If they are just data driven machines surely a sufficient simulation could fool them?"
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The Long Journey Home
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Aleksandra Zhukov
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Aleksandra thought quickly Thinking: "Can I trust her? Everyone on this ship is supposedly inherently trusted by the people who hired them, however that doesn't make them trust worthy. How far am I willing to go to secure my own observations? Above all else I need a stable operation platform to begin to allow maximum blending. I'll have to take the risk..."
She looked at Erza for a moment attempting to calculate intent and levels of professionalism from very limited data. Finally she spoke. "That's quite worrying then. One of my VI's was shut down remotely by someone other than myself while it was escorting my captain around the ship. Similarly when my other VI was addressing my captain earlier something forcibly turned off it's recording equipment. I know that my captain wasn't consciously involved, he hasn't the knowledge. Does this mean that someone has hacked the network already?"
She watched Erza carefully to read her response.
She looked at Erza for a moment attempting to calculate intent and levels of professionalism from very limited data. Finally she spoke. "That's quite worrying then. One of my VI's was shut down remotely by someone other than myself while it was escorting my captain around the ship. Similarly when my other VI was addressing my captain earlier something forcibly turned off it's recording equipment. I know that my captain wasn't consciously involved, he hasn't the knowledge. Does this mean that someone has hacked the network already?"
She watched Erza carefully to read her response.
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Universal_narration
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Bridge
The commodore replies to Rey "If you wish not to spread us thin, you could perhaps use scouting unmanned droids for the recon instead of sending yourselves. This won't tell you everything but likely have more information then you currently have before choosing to land on one of the planets. That would not be spreading yourselves at all then. I expect this is what Yuri meant by recon and not sending the planetside team down." He ponders for a moment. "As for the robots, do as you will with them. As long as you do not endanger the wanderer while you do it, use any means possible to get information you might need."
Ezra continues the quiet conversation with Aleksandra "Have you considered that the VI could be shut down remotely without the need of the comms of the ship? I mean I could 'edit' a communicator to do that if I needed to. I can assure you the network has not been hacked. Your VI might not have even been connected to the comms system when it was forcibly turned off. Someone probably just used a remote device to send your VI a shut down command." She seems relatively relaxed while explaining this.
The commodore replies to Rey "If you wish not to spread us thin, you could perhaps use scouting unmanned droids for the recon instead of sending yourselves. This won't tell you everything but likely have more information then you currently have before choosing to land on one of the planets. That would not be spreading yourselves at all then. I expect this is what Yuri meant by recon and not sending the planetside team down." He ponders for a moment. "As for the robots, do as you will with them. As long as you do not endanger the wanderer while you do it, use any means possible to get information you might need."
Ezra continues the quiet conversation with Aleksandra "Have you considered that the VI could be shut down remotely without the need of the comms of the ship? I mean I could 'edit' a communicator to do that if I needed to. I can assure you the network has not been hacked. Your VI might not have even been connected to the comms system when it was forcibly turned off. Someone probably just used a remote device to send your VI a shut down command." She seems relatively relaxed while explaining this.
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Turning to the Commodore
Just the limited findings we have. Private Zhukov described them as having some self-preservation instincts but he also said they would rather die then harm the rest of their kind. If they are AI and function as we understand technology to function then even our computers have a CPU, or likewise a local network. If there is a central focal point then by eliminating that we eliminate the whole. I did say it was all speculation, I don't have hard evidence to back it up.
Turning to rey
I agree, separating our forces would be foolish. I never said we should split up, the thinner we spread ourselves the more vulnerable we become. It's as the commodore says. However, if we're to continue discussing these plans we should probably leave the bridge and head for the conference room. I'll call in Sierra as well, and we can plan from there. I'm sure we've taken up enough of the commodore's time.
Turning to Karen..
What is it you wish to discuss with us?
Just the limited findings we have. Private Zhukov described them as having some self-preservation instincts but he also said they would rather die then harm the rest of their kind. If they are AI and function as we understand technology to function then even our computers have a CPU, or likewise a local network. If there is a central focal point then by eliminating that we eliminate the whole. I did say it was all speculation, I don't have hard evidence to back it up.
Turning to rey
I agree, separating our forces would be foolish. I never said we should split up, the thinner we spread ourselves the more vulnerable we become. It's as the commodore says. However, if we're to continue discussing these plans we should probably leave the bridge and head for the conference room. I'll call in Sierra as well, and we can plan from there. I'm sure we've taken up enough of the commodore's time.
Turning to Karen..
What is it you wish to discuss with us?
Mikhail Zhukov
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Mikhail dived into explaining his plan.
We already had a conversation with him. While not entirely willing to cooperate he did appear to be interested in not being destroyed. I was planing on putting it inside an isolated network for the sake of being able to communicate with it easily. If he functions similarly to our VI we can make it impossible for him to tamper with anything outside the network. However I am not willing to bet everything on this assumption especially since I am quite sure it is wrong. That is where you come in. If we attach a VI through one way connection that would monitor our friends activity and shut him down if he is up too something, then the entire plan goes from suicidal to just slightly dangerous.
Mikhail stopped for a second considering something.
Another thing. Given your position on the ship, would you like to see if an AI would be susceptible to subtle propaganda?
Also is there anyone else you could suggest who could be of help?
We already had a conversation with him. While not entirely willing to cooperate he did appear to be interested in not being destroyed. I was planing on putting it inside an isolated network for the sake of being able to communicate with it easily. If he functions similarly to our VI we can make it impossible for him to tamper with anything outside the network. However I am not willing to bet everything on this assumption especially since I am quite sure it is wrong. That is where you come in. If we attach a VI through one way connection that would monitor our friends activity and shut him down if he is up too something, then the entire plan goes from suicidal to just slightly dangerous.
Mikhail stopped for a second considering something.
Another thing. Given your position on the ship, would you like to see if an AI would be susceptible to subtle propaganda?
Also is there anyone else you could suggest who could be of help?
Mikhail Zhukov
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Arthur Campbell
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At that Arthur turned on his heel and walked out the room Kaboom following in his wake and went to the conference room to secure the comfiest seat.
Aleksandra Zhukov
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"It was something I had considered though I thought it prudent to come to you first as if this were network based it'd be a more serious problem than just someone tampering with one of my VI's." Aleksandra said still regarding Erza carefully.
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Universal_narration
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Bridge
Ezra doesn't seem to hiding anything in her statement and seems to be genuinely trying to help your situation.
After the meeting is over Okado leaves the bridge and Karen steps in to reply to Ghost's question. "I might be of some use in studying these AI you brought up earlier. I cannot guarantee anything but I could look into dissecting one, possibly one you bring back or one you might already have. Though when you have one in your possession we should consider our options more. It seems though from the reaction of your compatriate you might have more pressing matters." She the links her communicators to Rey, Raymond, Alexander and Ghost. "I best be on my way, we should have time later." She bows her head before leaving the bridge.
Conference room
Arthur finds the conference room fairly easily and finds a sleeping J.D.Tsuba in one of the chairs. A person in a blue jumpsuit, a hood and a surgical mask is currently cleaning the room. It's unclear as to the allegiance or gender of this person as the cleaner is completely covered with no markings. The person looks up at Arthur and says:
"Oh hi there, he yours? I just found him sleeping quite peacefully. I didn't want to disturb him."
Dr. Serano
Dr. Serano laughs a little "Oh this day just got better, yes I can certainly do that. I have plenty of tools of my own to monitor such a 'friend'. It will be fun to see if a robot AI is able to be subject to propaganda or brainwashing for that matter. Maybe it is similar to a soldier, let's see if its believes can shift from the survival it seems to have." He places his head to lean on one of his hands. He drums his fingers slowly across his desk, then opens one of the drawers taking out a file. "Yes this could work. Hehe, oh the people in this ship are such a treat." He then changes back to slightly more serious tone. "Ahem sorry, Karen O'Farrel can be of some use too."
Everyone
You all receive a reminder in your communicators that a discussion about the next destination should take place shortly.
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Ezra doesn't seem to hiding anything in her statement and seems to be genuinely trying to help your situation.
After the meeting is over Okado leaves the bridge and Karen steps in to reply to Ghost's question. "I might be of some use in studying these AI you brought up earlier. I cannot guarantee anything but I could look into dissecting one, possibly one you bring back or one you might already have. Though when you have one in your possession we should consider our options more. It seems though from the reaction of your compatriate you might have more pressing matters." She the links her communicators to Rey, Raymond, Alexander and Ghost. "I best be on my way, we should have time later." She bows her head before leaving the bridge.
Conference room
Arthur finds the conference room fairly easily and finds a sleeping J.D.Tsuba in one of the chairs. A person in a blue jumpsuit, a hood and a surgical mask is currently cleaning the room. It's unclear as to the allegiance or gender of this person as the cleaner is completely covered with no markings. The person looks up at Arthur and says:
"Oh hi there, he yours? I just found him sleeping quite peacefully. I didn't want to disturb him."
Dr. Serano
Dr. Serano laughs a little "Oh this day just got better, yes I can certainly do that. I have plenty of tools of my own to monitor such a 'friend'. It will be fun to see if a robot AI is able to be subject to propaganda or brainwashing for that matter. Maybe it is similar to a soldier, let's see if its believes can shift from the survival it seems to have." He places his head to lean on one of his hands. He drums his fingers slowly across his desk, then opens one of the drawers taking out a file. "Yes this could work. Hehe, oh the people in this ship are such a treat." He then changes back to slightly more serious tone. "Ahem sorry, Karen O'Farrel can be of some use too."
Everyone
You all receive a reminder in your communicators that a discussion about the next destination should take place shortly.
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Mikhail Zhukov
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Mikhail whispered to himself more then anyone else.
Just like the old days.
He looked back at the doctor.
Great. I will attempt to acquire miss O'Farrel's assistance and direct her here, I presume her specialties lie with the software, and begin working on the hardware. If you could, in the meantime, begin preparations, that would be incredibly helpful. No telling how much time we have left. And now I must bid my farewell for the time being.
Mikhail left the room and headed to the bridge to inquire about miss O'Farrel's whereabouts. He opened coms to Sarah on the way.
Second stage of the project is good to go. I am on my way to track more recruits for the cause. If you are still interested could you get some materials assembled and I will be there shortly. I will message you the list.
Just like the old days.
He looked back at the doctor.
Great. I will attempt to acquire miss O'Farrel's assistance and direct her here, I presume her specialties lie with the software, and begin working on the hardware. If you could, in the meantime, begin preparations, that would be incredibly helpful. No telling how much time we have left. And now I must bid my farewell for the time being.
Mikhail left the room and headed to the bridge to inquire about miss O'Farrel's whereabouts. He opened coms to Sarah on the way.
Second stage of the project is good to go. I am on my way to track more recruits for the cause. If you are still interested could you get some materials assembled and I will be there shortly. I will message you the list.
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