Paul Farquhar
Legend
Yes, why would you think it would make a difference?
[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED
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reelo
Hero
Because this is a show about the 2nd Age, as far as I'm aware. The show has depicted the entrance of (what will become) Moria as not yet having the Ithildin-encrusted gates crafted by Narvi and Celebrimbor during the height of the elven kingdom of Eregion.
If the Balrog devastates Khazad-Dûm already now, the whole period of peaceful and mutually beneficial friendship between both people (until Sauron sacks Eregion, AFTER the crafting of the Great Rings) is difficult to explain.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
No, it's "based on the appendices", not a specific age.
I expect they will think of a way to fit this into an episode. But the Balrog is too good for TV not to use (a huge CGI monster is much easier/cheaper to do than huge CGI armies), and once the Balrog is out it doesn't matter how long after the Loney Mountain is colonised. It's the resolution of that plot thread and hence will be in the show. Dates really don't matter on TV.
TheSword
Legend
Well the Balrog got paid for the last episode. A nice little cameo.
Also is anyone else thinking that maybe the reason hobbits have such resistance to the power of the ring is that Sauron might have a little soft spot for the Harfoots? Maybe he doesn’t hate them quite as much as the other peoples of middle earth and so his malice doesn’t affect them quite as much?
Also is anyone else thinking that maybe the reason hobbits have such resistance to the power of the ring is that Sauron might have a little soft spot for the Harfoots? Maybe he doesn’t hate them quite as much as the other peoples of middle earth and so his malice doesn’t affect them quite as much?
wicked cool
Hero
Good episode
Does Gondor exist at this point? I’m assuming not and I’m assuming isildur is the same from the novels? Isn’t his place in this story off by over a 1000 years?
Does Gondor exist at this point? I’m assuming not and I’m assuming isildur is the same from the novels? Isn’t his place in this story off by over a 1000 years?
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Hriston
Dungeon Master of Middle-earth (He/him)
I like the idea of Adar being an orc. I thought a couple things about his conversation with Galadriel were interesting. The first is when Adar asserts the personhood of orcs, Galadriel's response is to advocate for their genocide. This is not a good look for her, but it puts a twist on the paradox of tolerance by raising the question: what right does a "People of Hate", intolerant in its essence, have to exist?
The second is that Adar implies he believes in "The One", Eru Ilúvatar, which seems distinctly non-orcish. One of the defining characteristics of an orc is worship of the Dark Lord as God. We can see this in Sauron's promotion of his worship among his followers in the Third Age in the guise of Morgoth, with the attendant doctrine that Morgoth is the one true god. Adar's followers, likewise, seem to worship him, and his name/title, "Father", seems to appropriate Eru's title, "All-father". This highlights the inherently hypocritical position of one who aspires, as Adar, to become a dark lord.
The second is that Adar implies he believes in "The One", Eru Ilúvatar, which seems distinctly non-orcish. One of the defining characteristics of an orc is worship of the Dark Lord as God. We can see this in Sauron's promotion of his worship among his followers in the Third Age in the guise of Morgoth, with the attendant doctrine that Morgoth is the one true god. Adar's followers, likewise, seem to worship him, and his name/title, "Father", seems to appropriate Eru's title, "All-father". This highlights the inherently hypocritical position of one who aspires, as Adar, to become a dark lord.
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