[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

[trappedslider]

It doesn't need to be in this case. The appendices cover the same period of time. I'm not sure what your point is actually.

His point is unless it's written in the appendices it can't be used.

 

[Hriston]

His point is unless it's written in the appendices it can't be used.

Well, that's a demonstrably false assertion. This show has invented and used loads of details that aren't written anywhere in the appendices.

 

[Maxperson]

Just caught up after a few weeks. One thing I don't think has been discussed here yet: the Dwarven mine collapse. Is that foreshadowing the Dwarves waking the Balrog?

It looks like the are rushing that, too. If the leaf could reach the balrog with such a short fall, as soon as they start mining it will know that they are there and come. They aren't going to have time to mine enough to save the elves, forge mithril mail for a young elf prince for Bilbo to be given, and so on. The dwarves traded mithril to other races for a long time before they delved too deeply.

 

[trappedslider]

Well, that's a demonstrably false assertion. This show has invented and used loads of details that aren't written anywhere in the appendices.

Amazon's rights to Tolkien's work are the same rights that producer Saul Zaentz bought in the 1970s, leading both to Ralph Bakshi's animated Lord Of the Rings and eventually to Peter Jackson's films. These rights only include material from The Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit. So anything that's mentioned in those books (including Lord Of the Rings' lengthy appendices) is fair game, but anything exclusive to The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, or Christopher Tolkien's 12-volume History of Middle Earth, is off limits. So the Amazon series probably can't touch The Fall of Gondolin, for example.

"As long as we’re painting within those lines and not egregiously contradicting something we don’t have the rights to, there’s a lot of leeway and room to dramatize and tell some of the best stories that [Tolkien] ever came up with.” - showrunner McKay

So, they have some leeway to do stuff but not a lot.

TBF, since it was never really finished even by Christopher, it's all fan fiction.

 

[Maxperson]

Compressed timeline.

I bet a million internets they Balrog gets woken up on Friday.

Poor Bilbo is never going to get his mail, which means Frodo died in Moria when the spear hit him. They just doomed Middle Earth!

 

[Tonguez]

Well, that's a demonstrably false assertion. This show has invented and used loads of details that aren't written anywhere in the appendices.

Yeah at this point its pretty clear that Rings of Power is big budget LotR Fanfic, using the basic timeline as inspiration but filling in their own details

 

[Maxperson]

And if the Elves push the Dwarves to mine massive amounts of mithril for their "cure", awakening the Balrog, then it gives reason for thousands of years of hatred between the two.

They don't need that. Dwarves murdered the elven king Thingol for his Silmaril and the Nauglamír. They also went to war with the elves over false pretenses and sacked an elven city. The hatred was moving along just fine before this point in Middle Earth history.

 

[Maxperson]

Could an eye be considered a type of knob? If the staff has a knob on the end, it would clearly make them wizards.

They could be orc(the same as Adar) spellcasters.

 

[Maxperson]

Still, this is Halbrand now being welcomed into powerful courts in a fair form. (My money is still on him not ultimately being a good guy.)

If he suddenly knows the secrets of ring making after Galadriel finds him as a human smith from the south lands, I'm going to do a literal facepalm. And that's before the elves fall for such an obvious trap.

 

[Maxperson]

They mentioned that the wound has "turned sour", aka its infected. Apparently elves have anti-biotics

Which would be very odd for a race with perfect health. Plus the elves, especially the old elf lords like Galadriel, have songs of power which can be used to heal. She could have healed him on the spot.