doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Why? It’s set in the same world, and the central conflict is literally about the same titular antagonistic character.
[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED
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Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
It's like taking character from the Airforce and calling him Maverick, then making a movie about a weightlifting between America and the Russians. Goose, one of Maverick's airforce buddies gets killed in a weightlifting accident before Maverick takes the competition down. We can call it Top Gun because the central conflict is the same, it is set in the same world, and it has the same characters.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
It's a story of the Second Age and the Rings of Power. It's not the only version of the story.
Completely false just like what Tolkien wrote. There is no "true" version of the story because Tolkien made it all up, as I'm pretty sure he would point out, where he around to do so.
It's called The Rings of Power - that is an original title. But you know those movies called the Lord of the Rings? They changed a lot of stuff in those too. Name any movie based on a classic text - they will have changed lots of stuff in those as well. You can even look at shows based on history, like the Serpent Queen. They changed lots of stuff there too. Because the point is to entertain, not tell people something that this true.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
More accurately. It's a story of a Second Age and some Rings of Power, just not that are set in Tolkien's Middle Earth.
I'm sure if you wrote a book about the second age and the rings of power set in Middle Earth, the above argument would completely save you from being sued for copyright infringement.
"You see your honor, it's all made up and false, so there can't be a copyright about it. Tolkien's story isn't a true version, so they have no claim."
Yes those movies did, and I wasn't happy about those changes, either. At least they weren't nearly as drastic as these changes.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
That’s a terrible analogy.
It’s like making a Top Gun prequel and not worrying about the timeline of the characters life and fighter tech lining up right, at worst.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
It's a good analogy. I altered lots of established facts, just like the show is doing.
Ryujin
Legend
When it comes to book adaptations, I'm pretty much a purist. At least for books that I've read. Holding this production to that same level is something that I would consider ridiculous for me to do, given that they aren't permitted access to the material that would allow them to do so. If they stick the landing on the feel (I'm still withholding judgment on that), rather than the letter of the source, then I'll consider it a win.
Ryujin
Legend
If they altered those facts between the "Top Gun" novel and it's half dozen ancillary works, that they don't legally have access to in order to do their TV show, you mean?
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
No. They drastically altered the facts as established by the LotR which they do legally have access to. The timeline is set in those books.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
You altered facts that determine what kind of story Top Gun is, and that make it wholly incompatible with the original.
Changing how close together the forging of the rings and the fall of Numenor are doesn’t change the nature of the story, nor does it necessarily become an AU from the original story.
They made Galadriel a warrior. That doesn’t contradict anything in LOTR, it doesn’t change who she is in the 3rd Age, it changes nothing of any importance, and isn’t even directly contradictory to the Silmarillion. No one becomes a different person entirely because Isildur was around when the rings were forged.
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