The mandalorian [Spoilers]

Morrus · Dec 22, 2020

cbwjm said:
That's the vibe I'm getting from it, might be more to it but from the show, Bo Katan wanted the blade to cement her right to reclaim and rule Mandalore, I think Moff Gideon provided most of what I know about it when he was explaining why she couldn't just take the blade from the main guy.

Yeah I found that a bit vague and confusing.

Levistus's_Leviathan · Dec 22, 2020

cbwjm said:
Other than what's been shown in the series and mentioned here, I'm in the same boat, except that it has grabbed me. There's just something about the wielder of the blade has the right to rule that I think is cool.

It's Star Wars's version of the Elder Wand.

CapnZapp · Dec 22, 2020

Morrus said:
I'm sure they won't both air at exactly the same time. By that argument, Doctor Who s14 is effectively Mando season 3. They're different shows.

Who brought up Doctor Who?

I'm saying that if Mando is replaced in the schedule next December, it's not worth arguing over the technicality that Fett isn't really Mando S3.

pukunui · Dec 22, 2020

Here's another good article about the darksaber and why Bo-Katan can't just take it: The Difficult Choice THE MANDALORIAN's Bo-Katan Now Faces - Nerdist

The author just gets one bit wrong: technically Sabine did earn it, just not right away. Her mother takes it off her and gives it to Gar Saxon, the Imperial Mandalorian leader, whom Sabine later defeats in hand-to-hand combat, thus legitimately earning it.

cbwjm · Dec 22, 2020

AcererakTriple6 said:
It's Star Wars's version of the Elder Wand.

No idea what that is.

pukunui · Dec 22, 2020

cbwjm said:
No idea what that is.

It's Harry Potter's version of the darksaber.

EDIT: It's a magic wand from the Harry Potter stories. The idea is that it's the most powerful wand that's ever existed (crafted from elder wood by Death himself), and in order to become its master, you have to defeat its previous master. A major twist in the Harry Potter stories revolves around this fact.

doctorbadwolf · Dec 22, 2020

Khelon Testudo said:
Oh, yes. I think they've explored "Yoda as toddler" sufficiently; so I think they're going to step up to "Yoda as tween or teen". And while I can't be sure, I think they'll want to pattern him on an actor who can be on set in a mocap suit, and one who can follow direction. Given size restraints, that actor will have to be as small a child as possible that can still be easily directed; (probably multiple children with similar builds; at least mocap means they won't be forced to find twins).

They could just cast a teenage little person.

Morrus said:
Ugh. The darksabre Mandalorian stuff is too inside baseball for me. I'm not going to research it, and it's not grabbing me with the limited (none) info I have. I hope they don't do that.

Inside baseball, really? What do you not know that you need to know to understand the tension around the sword? Its a symbol of leadership, as noted in the first Bo-Katan episode and alluded to later, was stolen/taken by imperial monster Gideon, earned back by Din, and when he tried to give it to Bo-Katan, she didn't feel she could take it as a gift like that and be able to actually use it as a symbol of leadership of thier Proud Warrior (tm) culture.

That's...all in the show.

Morrus said:
I've no idea what any of that is!

You know what Mandalore is, that the Empire strip mined it and made it next to uninhabitable, and Gideon was the guy who oversaw that, and that it's basically a weird lightsaber.

But honestly, even if you did need to know a few episodes of knowledge from Clone Wars and Rebels...that's a reasonable ask. IMO it isn't really reasonable to decry that very, very, very, small amount of interconnectedness in what has always* been a shared universe. I get you don't like watching cartoons, but it's really not a big deal for some detail of a show in a shared universe to reference and call back to another show in that shared universe.

The show establishes the stakes and importance of the darksaber on screen, with greater depth to it's history and import being found in other parts of the shared universe. There is literally nothing at all wrong with that, from a story telling perspective (just like its okay to reference MacBeth in a story about treason and the making of kings, without explaining the reference), or from a "how creators treat their fans" perspective.

*or close enough as to make no difference

cbwjm · Dec 22, 2020

pukunui said:
It's Harry Potter's version of the darksaber.

EDIT: It's a magic wand from the Harry Potter stories. The idea is that it's the most powerful wand that's ever existed (crafted from elder wood by Death himself), and in order to become its master, you have to defeat its previous master. A major twist in the Harry Potter stories revolves around this fact.

Oh right, is it new or is this part of the original stories? I've only ever seen the first 6 or 7 movies and the two grindalwald ones and never read the books. Originally, I was going to ask if it was something from the Elder Scrolls series, mainly because they shared the word elder. The back story of it sounds cool, sounds like a wand worth putting into DnD.