Ryujin
Legend
It all goes back to the Infinity Stones. Wanda's powers were derived from one, in MCU canon. Wanda empowered Monica, in WandaVision. I figure that's the common point.
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Rabulias
the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
My thoughts as well, as Carol was empowered by the space stone. I am guessing that Kamala's bands (and maybe Shang-Chi's rings) are also Infinity Stone adjacent.
Yep my guess as well. I’d love to guess which one but frankly the power sets never match the stones (Wanda was mind but ability is more like reality, marvel was space but more like power)
Rabulias
the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
Maybe each Infinity Stone was linked to another stone in some way and drew power from it?
Or maybe they stole from each other like squabbling siblings!
Maybe each Infinity Stone was linked to another stone in some way and drew power from it?
Or maybe they stole from each other like squabbling siblings!
Or maybe trying to encapsulate the power of one of the "singularities" left over from the creation of the Universe in a single English word doesn't lead to understanding.
An interesting thought, now that I think about it, does anyone other than earth humans ever actually call the stones by a name?
As far as I can remember, the first time the stones "names" are truly referenced is when Wong gives his little exposition. Maybe the collector called them by name, can't remember.
We have had alternate names for the stones, the "Aether", the "Tesseract"....which could either be reality and space in alien languages or simply just a name without such formal meaning.
Now obviously in teh comics they are very much supposed to be geared to specific powersets but if you just take the MCU story as is we only have Wong to go on that they are truly that "pigeonholed", and therefore experience would suggest that Wong and the wizards are wrong (or "wong") on that one
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
An interesting thought, now that I think about it, does anyone other than earth humans ever actually call the stones by a name?
As far as I can remember, the first time the stones "names" are truly referenced is when Wong gives his little exposition. Maybe the collector called them by name, can't remember.
We have had alternate names for the stones, the "Aether", the "Tesseract"....which could either be reality and space in alien languages or simply just a name without such formal meaning.
Now obviously in teh comics they are very much supposed to be geared to specific powersets but if you just take the MCU story as is we only have Wong to go on that they are truly that "pigeonholed", and therefore experience would suggest that Wong and the wizards are wrong (or "wong") on that one
Not a bad theory but just noting that the Tesseract was the containment device for the spacestone which Red Skull describes as "Fabled to hold the power to rewrite the very laws of physics and unlock doors across the universe."
Rewriting the laws of physics is broad enough to cover all the 3 Marvels and the unlock doors part is consistent with the teleportation. Even the Mind Stone opening Wandas mind to her potential doesnt limit the fact that the Scarlet Witch was always inside her head
Neither "aether" nor "tesseract" are alien words, though. The first comes to English from Greek, the latter is a construction by British mathematician Charles Howard Hinton in 1888 to describe the 4-dimensional analog to a cube.
Aether however was given to us by the Asgardians (in MCU lore), they called it the Aether not humans. Tesseract I think was found on the writings Red Skull found when he uncovered it, so whether that was human or alien hard to say.
Yeah, but Hela was locked away in an extra-dimensional prison for apparently thousands of years, but came out speaking perfect English. Heck, while on Asgard, speaking only to Asgardians, they speak English. And the Frost Giants speak English. The Nova Corps speaks English. Howard the Duck speaks English. Drax speaks English... badly.
The MCU must play fast and loose with language because most of what is said needs to be understandable to the viewers. Don't take that as canonically meaningful, or you'll run into logic twisted in knots.
I'm fine with there being a generic superpower "speaks major languages of the planet they are on", but that means that the name they give is still a translation, not the Asgardian word for it.
Or, one sensible take is that what we watch is a dramatic representation, not the absolute literal truth of events, and that language is translated. The nearest English equivalents are "aether" and "tesseract".
I mean, if you want to take it that a British mathematician went on holiday to Norway to that shrine, read Norse runes on the wall, and decided to call his mathematical construction that in 1888, that's your headcanon and you are welcome to it.
