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TSR The Mystery Deepens -- Jim Ward Knows Nothing About A New TSR!

The mysteries about a new TSR are just getting more and more confusing! Not only did another new TSR announce its launch recently, they claim to be the original company resurrected, using names like Ernie Gygax (Gary Gygax's son), and Larry Elmore (iconic D&D artist) to back up that claim.

Ernie Gygax was involved with the other current TSR until he and his brother Luke withdrew from it due to legal conflict with their father's widow, Gail Gygax. It's not clear how one can register the TSR trademark with one company, leave it, then set up a new company and register the same trademark while the original company is still trading. Presumably there is some kind of arrangement there. Somebody should make a flowchart!

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However, Ward appears to know nothing about it!


@darjr posted this image of Jim Ward's Facebook post.

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Update -- Jim ward has since tweeted:


The new company's flagship product is a science-fantasy RPG called Giantlands, and is co-created by Jim Ward. His name is on the cover. It seems likely that his contribution to Giantlands pre-dated the most recent registration of the TSR trademark, or that the property was acquired by the new TSR.

Be the first kid on your block to get our first blockbuster summer release GiantLands! This crowdfunded game is made in Wisconsin with some of the original TSR team, like Larry Elmore, Jeff Dee and James M. Ward. It will be among the first titles to bring TSR Games back to life. The GiantLands 1st Edition boxed set consists of three booklets, dice and more, a homage to the original D&D set.


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The new TSR has also registered the trademark for Star Frontiers, a sci-fi RPG which was created by the original TSR in the 1980s. Evil Hat Productions picked up the lapsed trademark in 2017, and the new TSR picked up the again-lapsed trademark earlier this year. They have not yet commented on what access they have to the original Star Frontiers content and artwork, but they used the latter in their announcement, which implies that they might have some kind of license from WotC to use it. I'm sure we'll find out soon!

 
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Sacrosanct

Legend
Publisher
So basically, in the span of a week, the new TSR went from “We’re back! The original contributors are back to create content!” to “all of those creators are distancing themselves and wanting nothing to do with your company, and the only name left (Ernie) never really created anything himself back then.”

ok then. Interesting turn….
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
Good for Jeff!

Also this from TSR.

Good for them. Top Secret is a disaster of a game, but I might have to pick something up from them.

The interview itself was a dumpster fire. The channel pasting “it’s not our fault if you choose to be offended” on the title card is a massive red flag.

ETA: Top Secret NWO is free on drivethrurpg. That new?
 
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Parmandur

Book-Friend
So basically, in the span of a week, the new TSR went from “We’re back! The original contributors are back to create content!” to “all of those creators are distancing themselves and wanting nothing to do with your company, and the only name left (Ernie) never really created anything himself back then.”

ok then. Interesting turn….
This is a special kind of stupid.
 

Horacio

LostInBrittany
I felt really hyped last week when I saw TSR was back (again), I even felt the day off nostalgia when I saw the cover of Giantlands (Larry Elmore's style transported me to my teen years).

But the more I read about it, the more I feel bad. Special thanks about that too the community manager of TSR on Twitter, with their passive-aggressive style and the gatekeeping...

Sigh, that's why we can't have good things...

I would love some healthy nostalgia adapted to a modem view of the world and society, is that too much to ask?
 


Dire Bare

Legend
James M. Ward comments on the new TSR III and his involvement with Giantlands:

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Hopefully "Giantlands" was work-for-hire for Ward, and he's already been paid. I hope he's not relying on royalties . . . .

With Ward confirmed as the main designer behind "Giantlands", I feel pretty confident it will be a fun, well-designed game. But I'm not going near the dumpster fire that is TSR Games 3.0.
 







overgeeked

B/X Known World
I feel like using "absolute disaster" to refer to something else in a thread about NuTSR has an issue of scale. ;)
Fair. All this nonsense is an absolute disaster. Top Secret NWO was a poorly designed, poorly laid out game released before it could get any of the several edits and revisions it so desperately needed.
 


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