The needed monster that's never appeared in the MM1 -- or at all, in some editions

[TarionzCousin]

That's a very cool beastie, and I'm likely to use it as a lesser form of Galchutt, but again, it goes to the problem of playing off expectations that are never actually addressed in D&D properly: the lack of a sea serpent in the core rules.

Are rules for shipboard combat, sailing, ship-to-ship combat in the core rules? I figured that this sort of thing would have been in a supplement anyway. The serpent should have been there--Stormwrack, perhaps?

BTW, my ship has a +14 Fort save vs. being bitten in half. It cost 740,000 gp extra, but it was worth it.

 

[Beckett]

That's a very cool beastie, and I'm likely to use it as a lesser form of Galchutt, but again, it goes to the problem of playing off expectations that are never actually addressed in D&D properly: the lack of a sea serpent in the core rules.

Oh, a sea serpent would be a great creature for core. Sorry, I thought, besides bemoaning the lack of a sea serpent, I thought you were also asking for suggestions on something to fill the role.

And yes, it is a cool beastie.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Sorry, I thought, besides bemoaning

Listen, mister, what do you think the Internet is for?

I mean, other than porn.

 

[Desdichado]

Check out the bestiary in Pathfinder 3:

Pathfinder 3 is out already?! I better get off my duff and start reading Pathfinder 2! :\

 

[Aeolius]

I read this post and thought, Man, that is weird. I talked to James about it and he says he'll make it happen for the first MM after we have robust aquatic rules (DMG2 maybe? No promises!).

So there's hope for Races of Water, The Hydronomicon, Complete Aquan, and Waterscape in 4e, then?

 

[Baby Samurai]

Originally Posted by WotC_Logan
"I read this post and thought, Man, that is weird. I talked to James about it and he says he'll make it happen for the first MM after we have robust aquatic rules (DMG2 maybe? No promises!)."


They really like this word at the moment.

 

[Aeolius]

I admit that I have devised dozens upon dozens of undersea beasties for my subaqueous games but have yet to design anything larger than a sea drake, at least when it comes to snake-like sea serpents. My coral, pearl, or abalone dragons probably wouldn't fit the bill. It doesn't sound like you'd be satisfied with the whale-like leviathan in MM2. Size-wise, you'd probably be looking for something the size of the elemental water monolith in Complete Arcane. Perhaps a half-water monolith / half scyllan (Stormwrack)?

 

[Delta]

Sea Monsters from the OD&D boxed set Vol. 2:

SEA MONSTERS: As a general rule these creatures are more for show than anything else. However, they could guard treasure. The typical Sea Monster of mythology is equal in size to a Purple Worm, and they work upwards from there to double or treble that size. The best guide is a book on prehistoric life forms, from which the referee can pick a number of suitable forms for his Sea Monster. Typically, hits from a Sea Monster would inflict 3 or 4 dice of damage.

Somewhat more detail given in OD&D supplement II (Blackmoor), with stats for prehistoric Elasmosaurus, Mosasaurus, and Plesiosaurus among the aquatic monsters there.

 

[Raven Crowking]

Apologies if someone's already mentioned this, and correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the sea serpent appear in the 1e Monster Manual?

RC

 

[Aeolius]

Apologies if someone's already mentioned this, and correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the sea serpent appear in the 1e Monster Manual?

You may be thinking of the giant sea snake.