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The New D&D Book Is Called "Ghosts of Saltmarsh" [UPDATED!]

R_J_K75

Explorer
No hard stats for the entire community, but I think there are are some stats on what's being played online in certain places (though I don't know where).
Id be curious to see what the statistics look like for D&D through the years. For example how many units shipped per edition compared to how many peole are playing which edition today. I'm sure its impossible data to compile but I wonder if theres merit to D&D is bigger than ever when compared to inflation and population increase. No doubt its more accessible but bigger who knows?
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
Oh, sweet summer child... Gamers tend not to be reasonable or forgiving (a little more time on these boards will illustrate that). :D



It, from my understanding, is to build up anticipation and excitement of the next product without further products detracting from that. It's a slow hype train.
I recall Mearls once answered this very question by saying that a few months of concentrated hype were the best way to keep people engaged and excited to buy each book sequentially. Also, plans change, best not to get tied down.
 

Staffan

Explorer
Can anyone shed any light on why WotC is so secretive as to what their releasing any given year for 5E? Editions past you knew what was coming well in advanced. Now they give us minimal bits and pieces for one product, and then announce something after the first is released with little detail. I dont see why they dont come out at the beginning of the year saying we are planning to release this?
As far as I can tell, because of two reasons:

1. Bleep happens. In the early days of 5e (damn, it feels weird to say that), someone got their hands on a solicitation meant for retailers that had an Adventurer's Handbook hardback in it, meant for concurrent release with Princes of the Apocalypse. That never materialized in that form - instead we got the Elemental Evil Player's Companion released as a free PDF with POD options on DM's Guild. When asked why it was cancelled, the devs said "That was never announced, and we can't cancel something we haven't announced." They've been distinctly more cagey about future releases since. Given the really late release date, my guess is that something has held up the release of this, and you can imagine what these boards would have looked like if we had been told about a March release and then been informed that no, it's going to be released in May instead.

2. Hype. Their marketing team has shown that it's hard to maintain interest in a future product for months upon months, so nowadays they announce product about three months in advance, with maybe a month or two of small teasers before that.
 

Hussar

Hero
As far as I can tell, because of two reasons:

1. Bleep happens. In the early days of 5e (damn, it feels weird to say that), someone got their hands on a solicitation meant for retailers that had an Adventurer's Handbook hardback in it, meant for concurrent release with Princes of the Apocalypse. That never materialized in that form - instead we got the Elemental Evil Player's Companion released as a free PDF with POD options on DM's Guild. When asked why it was cancelled, the devs said "That was never announced, and we can't cancel something we haven't announced." They've been distinctly more cagey about future releases since. Given the really late release date, my guess is that something has held up the release of this, and you can imagine what these boards would have looked like if we had been told about a March release and then been informed that no, it's going to be released in May instead.

2. Hype. Their marketing team has shown that it's hard to maintain interest in a future product for months upon months, so nowadays they announce product about three months in advance, with maybe a month or two of small teasers before that.
Pretty much all of this.

The level of vitriol that gets tossed WotC's way if they are anything but 100% accurate with every prediction is mind blowing. Every missed deadline would be yet more people crowing from the rooftops that 5e is DOOOOMMMED. :erm:

Much, MUCH better this way.
 

EthanSental

Explorer
I’m not a big fan of monsters that come out in the 3rd or 4th book of monster cause like in pathfinder and even older editions of D&D, these monsters are less used, fringe and weren’t popular or good enough to make it into the earlier books. I am glad that WoTC is doing them like this though and have them tied to the adventure/book, handful of monsters, naval stuff...mix of everything instead of a 100% book of monsters in a bestiary that only has 5% that I’ll use.....new format works for me as a DM and as an enthusiast!
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
I’m not a big fan of monsters that come out in the 3rd or 4th book of monster cause like in pathfinder and even older editions of D&D, these monsters are less used, fringe and weren’t popular or good enough to make it into the earlier books. I am glad that WoTC is doing them like this though and have them tied to the adventure/book, handful of monsters, naval stuff...mix of everything instead of a 100% book of monsters in a bestiary that only has 5% that I’ll use.....new format works for me as a DM and as an enthusiast!
I really liked the loose leaf 2E Monstrous Compendiums. I still have all of them in one huge binder. I really miss some of the detail thats since been omitted from 3E-5E, especially the ecology & habitat entries. The Spelljammer MC had some cool monsters, the one that acted like Alien from the movie was great. Killed more than a few PCs with that one. Think I even took out a whole party.
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
I suspect it's more like a very small number of posters making a lot of noise...


(Quite frankly, there is good reason FR overtook Greyhawk in popularity).
Its all the Drows fault. But honestly I dont see what edition you are playing has any bearing on what setting you play your campaign in. If you like Greyhawk, Mystara, Birthright or Darksun, chances are you have a some old source material. Doesnt take much to do some conversion or ad hoc on the fly. Im currently running an Undermountain campaign and after reading about 3 rooms from the new DotMM, I stopped reading and just made up my own adventure as I go along. Heck except for character advancement I dont even know what edition were playing anymore, nor do I care or bother to look up rules. I just make sure Im fair and keep the game moving along. My players dont seem to mind.
 

oreofox

Explorer
I suspect it's more like a very small number of posters making a lot of noise...


(Quite frankly, there is good reason FR overtook Greyhawk in popularity).
That's what happens when you place practically every video game in FR. And I saw more FR novels than nearly any other setting, except maybe Dragonlance. And that setting went downhill after Dragons of Summer Flame.
[MENTION=6801060]Demetrios1453[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6780330]Parmandur[/MENTION] : I didn't read any of the monster lore because as I stated, they were useless to me as I have my own lore for my own setting. And I figured they were FR focused since EVERY other book released has been (adventures minus Strahd, SCAG). Giving them names of Greyhawk characters really means nothing. So I made a mistake, but like I said, I didn't read the lore because it's rather useless to me. It's good to know it isn't FR focused, though.
 

Schmoe

Villager
I love that they are tapping into old Dungeon adventures. That magazine was one of the highlights of the 3e era to me. There are so many great adventures to be found in it's pages. The Styes is a particularly awesome choice. :)
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
That's what happens when you place practically every video game in FR...
To me thats comparing different media, a TTRPG vs. a video game vs. a movie or novel isnt the same. For the most part a movie, novel or video game are linear, you have no control where it goes or how it ends, (unless its the 80s clue movie or a choose your own adventure). With a TTRPG its a collective story, where you can control where its set, the story and the ending.
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
That's what happens when you place practically every video game in FR...
To me thats comparing different media, a TTRPG vs. a video game vs. a movie or novel isnt the same. For the most part a movie, novel or video game are linear, you have no control where it goes or how it ends, (unless its the 80s clue movie or a choose your own adventure). With a TTRPG its a collective story, where you can control where its set, the story and the ending.
 

werecorpse

Villager
The Styes is set in a port town. I wonder if it will be in Saltmarsh or if the book will give two towns along the coast?

also is the order of adventures as stated ?
Or will it be
U1
isle of abbey
U2
etc?
 

Paul Farquhar

Explorer
That's what happens when you place practically every video game in FR. And I saw more FR novels than nearly any other setting, except maybe Dragonlance. And that setting went downhill after Dragons of Summer Flame.
Certainly successful computer games and novels where what initially propelled FR past Greyhawk, but that raises additional questions: Why did SSI choose FR for the Gold Box games? Why was the breakthrough D&D novel (The Crystal Shard) set in FR?
 

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