the new EN World DDO thread

[GlassJaw]

I try to stay away.

Probably for the best.

But as far as cartoonish graphics go, DDO might as well National Geographic compared to WoW. WoW is like Disney with elves and orcs.

Good to see this thead pop up again actually. If anyone is new to the game, definitely look me up. My current characters are Felecia, Zayne, and Izzy. They are all level 10 but I have some low-level characters I want to start playing.

 

[Morrus]

You can choose the solo option for almost all of the Harbor quests. That should give you at least 20 or so quests, give or take.

Which'll take me about my free week. That's what I mean by not being likely to put money down after that.

 

[andargor]

Probably for the best.

But as far as cartoonish graphics go, DDO might as well National Geographic compared to WoW. WoW is like Disney with elves and orcs.

Good to see this thead pop up again actually. If anyone is new to the game, definitely look me up. My current characters are Felecia, Zayne, and Izzy. They are all level 10 but I have some low-level characters I want to start playing.

Well, if you have low-level types on Xoriat and would like to gang up with Serenval (now Pal 2), give me a shout. Or join the EN World guild, it didn't exist, so I created it.

The game's ok, but not enough for me to break open my wallet. Maybe playing in a group will make me change my mind.

 

[werk]

Hmm. The graphics are ok, a bit too cartoonish for my taste. I've been having no problems with solo play, there are many level 1 and 2 solo quests. Higher level than that, and it's another story.

I haven't done a party adventure yet, but I will soon. It's not an atmosphere conductive to RP, everything seems so... quiet.

I don't know why you would WANT to solo, but to each his own. I've never had trouble finding groups...good groups, that's another story

When you are in a group (and enable voice chat through your options menu) you can chat with party members. That way you get to yell "TRAP-TRAP-TRAP!" while your tank walks through them.

I have a guild-free character that would love to join the Xoriat-ENWorld guild that you started Andargor! Name is Nin, and she's currently a 4th level cleric.

As for cracking open your wallet, consider how many D&D books you bought after your first game. It takes a little while to even realize what you are capable of doing.

Game On!

 

[GlassJaw]

Yeah, I don't really get the complaint about lack of solo play. Certain builds can actually solo a LOT of game (especially paladins). I soloed almost all of the harbor quests (even on elite) when I was leveling and gaining favor.

But the bottom line is that DDO is a party-based game. Simple as that. And it's not advertised as something else. Coming to DDO and expecting a lot of solo play is kind of foolish. If that was your goal, then of course you are going to be disappointed.

If you also go through the entire 7-day trial and never get into a group, you aren't giving yourself a even a small chance to discover the game is really about.

 

[andargor]

I never said I only want to solo play.

I like to get a feel for the game before signing up with other people, particularly those I don't know! (except you guys, of course)

I do however like the freedom to do what I want without having to wait around for others. So I guess I'm looking for a mix of solo/group play.

It was gaming night last night, so I couldn't play. But I will be on tonight around 7-8 pm. EST, if you wanna do some group quests. I'm out of solo quests anyway.

 

[werk]

I hope to be on again tonight. That cleric is levelling too fast, so I made another alt, a rdrow rogue named Sliff.

In order to maximize my Coin Lord favor (for extra inventory slots), I skipped the Goodblade quests and slid through the Low Road with a newbie so I could get to the mailbox. Now properly equipped and trained, I hope to get with a group of at least two other people with spanking new PCs so we can all do the Goodblade and Low Road quests up to elite, then run through Waterworks.

...lots of tricks in this here game.

Anyone interested, look for me tonight 9/7/06 after, say 6pm central.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

But as far as cartoonish graphics go, DDO might as well National Geographic compared to WoW. WoW is like Disney with elves and orcs.

Since Mulan is one of the best fantasy movies of the last 15 years, I'd say that's not a bad thing.

If someone's looking for hyper-realism, DDO may not be the game for them, since it splits the difference between absolute cutting edge and being playable on lots of machines.

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, a forthcoming more-hardcore-than-WoW-but-please-don't-call-it-"hardcore"-because-they-freak-out-if-you-do MMORPG is probably a lot closer to that end of the spectrum for people interested in that.

Having said that, though, I played EQ1 happily for years without worrying about the fact that the characters looked like crude Doom-era mannequins. Gameplay triumphs in the end, once you're in the door. Plenty of people initially resisted WoW's graphics and 7 million of them are currently playing it despite any concerns about the style not being their favorite.

No one should resist DDO based on its graphics, or any game, IMO. Look at how many people still love NetHack.

 

[andargor]

Played last night with werk (characters Sliff and Nin). Other than being hopelessly lost most of the time ("um, where are you again?"), it was fun. Especially the Steam Tunnels. Thanks man!

Didn't like the Waterworks much, but the party composition has a lot to do with that. It mostly went by too quickly for me to figure out what was going on.

I'll have to get used to the fast pace. One of the reasons I like to do things with few people is that you can take your time through.

I was surprised at how most players were quite mature (with a couple of exceptions). Someone was even older than me! (40)

I'll probably be on tonight after Eve, 9-10pm EST or so. Serenval, now Pal 3 thanks to werk!

 

[werk]

Played last night with werk (characters Sliff and Nin). Other than being hopelessly lost most of the time ("um, where are you again?"), it was fun. Especially the Steam Tunnels. Thanks man!

Didn't like the Waterworks much, but the party composition has a lot to do with that. It mostly went by too quickly for me to figure out what was going on.

I'll have to get used to the fast pace. One of the reasons I like to do things with few people is that you can take your time through.

I was surprised at how most players were quite mature (with a couple of exceptions). Someone was even older than me! (40)

I'll probably be on tonight after Eve, 9-10pm EST or so. Serenval, now Pal 3 thanks to werk!

You are very welcome!

My main complaint about last night was that everyone was literally running through the quests, which was pretty inconsiderate toward you. I found myself just trying to keep up and expalin things before they happened. "Up here is a t...<FWOOSH!>...trap. " There was no 'pulling' at all or intelligent play, just a lot of 'run in, get surrounded, and fight for your life'. I got a little cranky after a while, and I apologize for that.

You were doing good though, and like you said, group play got you like 4x more xp than you had gathered so far on solo. The game is really designed for group play, so if you have less than a full group you'll either be underpowered or running lower level quests which slows down xp feed. Guilds are good for finding people that you like to play with, that play the same times or style that you do.

Waterworks and ShanToKor are good quests to cut your teeth on, for sure. We should run a few more quests to bump you up another level, then go back and run them on hard. Half the fun of the game for me is running a quest on normal, having a very easy time, then turning it up to hard and getting TPK because that 1CR increase feels like a lot more than 1CR.

I really liked the rogue, Morley, he was a great guy, and stuck around all night. Old salty gamer type guy. "Stand back, I'm gonna blow another box." Have to find him again...