The (new) Immortals Handbook Thread

[S'mon]

I can't believe I'm going to answer this question...

I was just saying that Limited Wish - 1hp is balanced against Wish - 1 hp x Caster Level. Nothing about balancing of the CR of the Permanent Damage Monster, that's nothing to do with me. I agree with the view that the CR of the PDM isn't really balanceable in terms of the default assumption that it's some random encounter down a dungeon meant to be killed; it's the kind of creature that most PCs would never voluntarily face so it's more of a GM's tool for scaring PCs. The assigned CR can really only represent a reasonable XP reward for defeating it, not an estimate of its Challenge, because even if it loses it can make the PCs regret fighting it - and that is the notion people appear to object to. In 1e you could say the same about level-draining undead.

BTW for the second time, I am not involved in designing any of U_K's Immortals Handbook, it's his own work and I probably know less about it than half the people on this thread. The original Worship Points System was developed by me ca 1990 but U_K's version has had pretty much no input from me for years. And I haven't created a deity-level monster for 10 years either.

 

[CRGreathouse]

But your tryingg to heal up to 400 hp or more from what this beast could do.

Wait -- do we have stats for one of these premanent damage creatures previewed somewhere I haven't noticed? As far as I knew only U_K and the editor ( ) have seen these stats.

Further... at what CR does it do this sort of damage? If this is supposed to be fitting for a 20th-level character 400 damage is a lot, but if it's for an 800th-level character it's pretty trivial.

Just as serious as that serious face on your avatar.

It's an actual photograph of me.

 

[Baronovan]

I really hope we're not banking on 800th-level characters.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I really hope we're not banking on 800th-level characters.

I really hope we're not talking about 400 damage.

 

[Baronovan]

400 "permanent" damage, you mean. Any melee muscle worth their salt at at least 40th level should be able to handle 400 damage before they need attention from the cleric.

 

[CRGreathouse]

400 "permanent" damage, you mean.

Of course.

 

[Baronovan]

Oh man, I love that show.

 

[Sledge]

Last Day of the month. Are we there yet?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Sledge dude!

Last Day of the month. Are we there yet?

Almost. I sort of took my foot off the gas for a day or two* when Anabstercorian gave me an extra month...sorry.

*Although to be fair I did spend that time working on parts of the Apotheosis section, so it wasn't a full loss.

Also the wrangling over the permanent damage business on these boards took longer to settle than I would have otherwise liked.

However the last few days of delay have probably been S'mons fault...but I won't hold it against him.

So I am probably about 4-6 days behind where I thought I would be (thanks to myriad distractions).

 

[poilbrun]

Hey guys!

I am absolutely over the moon at the moment. Just watched the champions league final, and Liverpool (the team I support) making the greatest comeback in the competitions history. Absolutely unbelievable game!

...I hope you were watching from Jamaica poilbrun mate!

Of course I did... I watched the game in Spanish because ESPN in Spanish was the only channel I had which showed it, but I understand enough Spanish to understand that the Reds won!

That was a very nice day for me: I saw Liverpool won the CL, AC Milan loose it (I support Inter), and I spend the morning on a ship and saw dolphins swimming around us. That's a day to remember!