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The offical ENWorld The Return of the King Extendend Edtion DVD reaction thread.

Worth it

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Despite the negative points in my review, I agree.

I'm not a purist either. There are several movies I like better than the books. The key question is, does the movie do it better, as good as or worse than the book.

In the case of Jackson's films, my own verdict is: Much worse, but still acceptable in the extended editions.

And no, I don't believe that Jackson understood more than the surface of Tolkien.
 

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Mark Oliva said:
<<IT.< p> WILL.
BE.
WORTH IT.>>

Despite the negative points in my review, I agree.

I'm not a purist either. There are several movies I like better than the books. The key question is, does the movie do it better, as good as or worse than the book.

In the case of Jackson's films, my own verdict is: Much worse, but still acceptable in the extended editions.

And no, I don't believe that Jackson understood more than the surface of Tolkien.
I will rehash something I said a while back.

It is virtually impossible to do all of the books, in movie format. Time, money, and the feasibility to recoup the investment, puts the movie making over a field of quality versus quantity(getting the cash back).

I honestly think, and feel free to disagree, if it was another director, Not PJ, I honestly think...it would not be what it is now...a possible bridging between the original writer intent and the film's outlook.

We all know of directors doing what they think is best, in what is possible to do, and sometimes...they miss the point entirely(like ST:Nemsis). The differences with this film, and only this film to me, that all the cast members, director(s), and maybe stagehands ;), had the books there as reference points.

I have never read the books, and honestly, I don't think I would need to read them, I know, I know, the books speaks more, but I know what Tolkien was doing, illustrating the devastation on what war does, the lost of friends, loyal, trust, and courage that comes forward against the odds that seek to tear you down(my interpretation...forgive me). All of a reflection on his past, seeing that in turn, done through the movie trilogy...I truly understand all of what is being said...it is about our selves, and the power we possess, it is easy to wage war, at a drop of hat. But with that same power, why can't we have enduring peace?

When I get it(DVDs), and watch it...my tears will flow, my nose will honk, and that blanket will be held tight, knowing...that one man, wrote a legacy that has endure for this long, has always capture the spirit of what we human beings can do...but is not. To see partily explained on film...the message is there.

Change what we are...or be prepared, to loose everything we hold dear.

Again my view...everyones' elses, has a different outlook...we are fickle that way, that is what makes us human.
 
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Peter Jackson said himself that the books as wrtitten are unfilmable, I agree. I have heard one thing about RotK EE. The drinking contest, Leg o LAME wins it, against a dwarf? :\ Proves that Peter Jackson is an elf fanboy. Heaven forbid we get ONE FRICKING SCENE in all three movies where the dwarf does something better then the pretty boy elf.
 
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Well, chalk that one up to the Professor. In Middle-Earth, elves are better at everything, being the inherently chosen race of the world's creator powers.

Didn't JRR read about Level Adjustment when he made up these folks????

:)
 

KenM said:
Peter Jackson said himself that the books as wrtitten are unfilmable, I agree. I have heard one thing about RotK EE. The drinking contest, Leg o LAME wins it, against a dwarf? :\ Proves that Peter Jackson is an elf fanboy. Heaven forbid we get ONE FRICKING SCENE in all three movies where the dwarf does something then the pretty boy elf.
I didn't know that...mmmmm, hmmm..mmmmm
 

Klaus said:
Well, chalk that one up to the Professor. In Middle-Earth, elves are better at everything, being the inherently chosen race of the world's creator powers.

Didn't JRR read about Level Adjustment when he made up these folks????

:)
He wrote the books before 3e...damn! If only he'd waited...oh...fifty odd years. ;)
 

KenM said:
Peter Jackson said himself that the books as wrtitten are unfilmable, I agree. I have heard one thing about RotK EE. The drinking contest, Leg o LAME wins it, against a dwarf? :\ Proves that Peter Jackson is an elf fanboy. Heaven forbid we get ONE FRICKING SCENE in all three movies where the dwarf does something then the pretty boy elf.
Doesn't anyone understand IRONY? You know, the fundamental basis for comedy?

It's funnier if the elf wins. If I have to explain why...
 

Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Doesn't anyone understand IRONY? You know, the fundamental basis for comedy?

It's funnier if the elf wins. If I have to explain why...

I know its funnier if the elf wins. My problem is that damn elf does EVERYTHING better then the dwarf in all three movies. I would have liked just one scene at some point in the almost 12 hour epic where the dwarf does something better then the elf.
 
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