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D&D 5E The Return of Tyranny of Dragons: First Impressions

Gamers don't usually ask for a revision to an existing adventure unless it's to adapt it to a new edition, yet that's exactly why Wizards of the Coast produced the new edition of Tyranny of Dragons. Fans online have been asking for an updated edition for some time. The fact that Tiamat and the Cult of the Dragon, especially one very prominent Tiamat follower, factors into the newest adventure...

Gamers don't usually ask for a revision to an existing adventure unless it's to adapt it to a new edition, yet that's exactly why Wizards of the Coast produced the new edition of Tyranny of Dragons. Fans online have been asking for an updated edition for some time. The fact that Tiamat and the Cult of the Dragon, especially one very prominent Tiamat follower, factors into the newest adventure, Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus, probably helped.

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Tyranny of Dragons contains a revised versions of the previously released adventure books Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat, packaged with extra material, errata and a brand new cover by Hydro74 that gorgeously displays the five heads of Tiamat. While our accompanying image shows off the cover accurately you really have to see it in person to get the full effect of the metallic inks, especially the metallic red artwork contrasted with the black matte background. Unlike Hydro74's cover for Xanathar's Guide to Everything the matte portion is not a soft touch black cover they use on limited editions but it still looks terrific..

Reissuing Tyranny of Dragons in its combined form is not an insult to the original version or, in my opinion, a cash grab. Hoard of the Dragon Queen was produced by Kobold Press, but the team had the disadvantage of creating the adventure while the rules for 5th Edition were still being finalized, and the book was released with before the 5th Edition Monster Manual was released so it was designed to work with the Basic Rules that were online at that time and monsters in the appendix. Logistically, it made sense – give players a chance to start immediately with a new adventure. I don't envy Wolfgang Baur, Steve Winter and their team putting together an epic adventure without a finalized rule set for most of the development time.

As the first official 5th Edition adventure, Tyranny of Dragons, the official name of the two adventures when taken as a whole, is as epic as they come. WotC clearly wanted to kick off with a bang, and Kobold Press delivered. New leadership in the Cult of the Dragon has shifted its focus from undead dragons to plotting to free the dragon goddess Tiamat from her prison in Avernus and acquire a hoard of gold to welcome her return to Faerun (she is greedy, and dragons love a hoard). The plot takes the players through large chunks of the continent as the Red Wizards of Thay scheme with the cult to free Tiamat and a separate conspiracy seeks to shape the world in its image. From Baldur's Gate and Waterdeep to the Sea of Moving Ice and much more, Tyranny of Dragons provides an overview of the world that worked well for new and lapsed players as well as to introduce Faerun to the new edition.

Baur and the Kobold Press team also deftly worked in not just an introduction to factions but weaved them well into the plot as information sources, support and potential thorns in the characters' side, depending upon what the players decide to do. Within the story opportunities arise for rival sides like the Harpers and Zhentarim (as well as groups like the Lords Alliance who frequently disagree with both of those) to work together against a common enemy – but that doesn't mean it will smooth sailing.

The original Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat are fan favorites for a reason. It's a rollicking good adventure whether you're completely new to D&D (and role-playing in general) or just new to 5th Edition. Starting at 1st level and taking the players to 15th level before the final confrontation in the Well of Dragons, it gives players a chance to sink their teeth into the adventure, and they can fail. The final battle isn't hopeless, but victory is far from assured.

I do wish that in revising HotDQ and RoT to unify Tyranny of Dragons that they had adopted some of the conventions the more recent D&D adventures have added. Clearly defined adventure trees, dramatis personae, pronunciation guides, etc. are small things individually but make life much easier for busy DMs.

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The concept art is a lovely addition. Unfortunately Tyranny of Dragons does not follow the convention of the more recent D&D adventures where the artist's name is listed on the page seam so you can tell who did what illustration. Still, in addition to the original art, ToD contains epic new images, details on the dragon masks, the cult's decorative regalia, etc. I especially like the sketches for the types of chromatic dragons with details next to them as if a zoologist was taking notes.

If you don't already own HotDQ and RoT, and are interested in the plot, purchasing Tyranny of Dragons is a no-brainer. You'll be getting a proven, popular adventure in a spiffy new edition with a gorgeous new cover and additional art.

If you do already HotDQ and RoT, purchasing Tyranny of Dragons is more of a judgment call, especially depending upon your budget. While it does incorporate the errata to fix prior mistakes and omission, that and the supplemental material for Rise of Tiamat are still available online so purchasing the new version isn't necessary. If you're a completest, then buying it is an easy choice.

Original edition or revised, Tyranny of Dragons is a terrific adventure. It definitely set a high bar for launching the 5th Edition D&D adventures and well worth a look if you haven't already played it.
 

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Beth Rimmels

Beth Rimmels

Salthorae

Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
Again, the fact that it needed a reprint, as well as extensive errata before that (and even virtual apologies from the creators, who explained that the reason for some of the problems was they didn't have the final creature stats) is an indication the module had problems. Everyone can see that.

Similarly, the polls on these forums indicate that the ENWorld community as a whole regards this module as the worst or among the worst adventures for 5e. Does that mean it's not good? That is a judgment call. But to waive away the fact that this is the worst reviewed 5e module as some mental gymnastics is burying your head in the sand.

It didn't NEED a reprint. WotC chose to do a reprint for a number of reasons, one of which included being able to include errata and some balance tweaks now that the game has some legs and experience for those things.

No one said it didn't have problems. Every published module has problems.

ENWorld polls are such a small microcosm of the D&D community that they're not really good for judging anything other than the ENWorld Community's opinion. I would be very wary of extrapolating that to the broader community.

"Worst reviewed" by who? Who are your data points for "worst reviewed"? Its amazon ratings are all north of 4 stars.

You're saying that something on Amazon that has B+ to A- for consumer reviews being the "worst" thing as if it's a bad thing.
 

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Just admit that it isn’t as poorly regarding by the broad dnd community as it is by you and a few others, and get over it. 🤷‍♂️

I mean, you haven't even remotely proved that HotDQ is "popular with the broad D&D community", so you probably should chill out a bit here.

HotDQ has clearly sold well and been popular on Amazon, but that doesn't mean the "broad D&D community" thinks it's awesome, or that it is broadly "liked". It means the subset of the D&D community who buys adventures on Amazon thinks it's decent. What percentage of "the broad D&D community" that is we have no idea, but it's not likely to be a large one.

I notice on Amazon.co.uk it has 4.1 rating and is 15,271 in books, and 589 in hobbies & games.

Curiously I note it has 4.3 in the US, and is 7358 in books, not the 4.5 and 5374 claimed upthread, which is a bit weird. Does Amazon show different things to different people?

Those are good figures for a niche product, but what they hard prove is popularity with a specific subset of customers, not with the "broad D&D community". It's fine to reject suggestions that it's widely disliked or something in the "broad D&D community" - there is equally no proof for that. But claims either way are without real evidence.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
It didn't NEED a reprint. WotC chose to do a reprint for a number of reasons, one of which included being able to include errata and some balance tweaks now that the game has some legs and experience for those things.

No one said it didn't have problems. Every published module has problems.

ENWorld polls are such a small microcosm of the D&D community that they're not really good for judging anything other than the ENWorld Community's opinion. I would be very wary of extrapolating that to the broader community.

"Worst reviewed" by who? Who are your data points for "worst reviewed"? Its amazon ratings are all north of 4 stars.

You're saying that something on Amazon that has B+ to A- for consumer reviews being the "worst" thing as if it's a bad thing.
Most publishers would give almost anything to have their “worst” product be at that level of positive reviews! 😂

But the notion that they spent the time and money to print a special edition compilation version of the adventure path “because it needed errata” is genuinely the weirdest thing anyone has claimed on a dnd forum since the days of the Edition War, if not longer.

By someone who demands evidence for any claim they don’t like in a casual conversation, no less! Hilarious!
 


Hurin70

Adventurer
But the notion that they spent the time and money to print a special edition compilation version of the adventure path “because it needed errata” is genuinely the weirdest thing anyone has claimed on a dnd forum since the days of the Edition War, if not longer.

Ah, you're adding hyperbole to your repertoire of self-contradiction, ad hominem fallacies and baseless claims. That's quite a performance.
 




Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
It didn't NEED a reprint. WotC chose to do a reprint for a number of reasons, one of which included being able to include errata and some balance tweaks now that the game has some legs and experience for those things.

No one said it didn't have problems. Every published module has problems.

ENWorld polls are such a small microcosm of the D&D community that they're not really good for judging anything other than the ENWorld Community's opinion. I would be very wary of extrapolating that to the broader community.

"Worst reviewed" by who? Who are your data points for "worst reviewed"? Its amazon ratings are all north of 4 stars.

You're saying that something on Amazon that has B+ to A- for consumer reviews being the "worst" thing as if it's a bad thing.

It's actually really hard to measure how popular/well received these adventures actually are. The popularity is especially hard to measure, because it's the first set of adventures for 5e. But let me give them a try;


Sales: There are a total of 12 adventure books released for D&D (not counting boxed sets).
Rise of Tiamat ranks as the 8th best-selling of the 12, Hoard ranks as the 9th. That's actually not that great, especially considering that they are the oldest and more likely to sell books over time. But it doesn't make them the worst either, especially since they are cut into two books.

Reviews: Rise of Tiamat gets a 4.5 on Amazon scores, which sounds pretty good, but needs to be put in context; there isn't a single adventure on Amazon that gets a 4.1 or lower. Still, 4.5 is pretty good; only four adventures have better (GoS, CoS, ToA, SKT). More adventures also tie RoT at 4.5 (TftYP, OotA, PotA).
Hoard is reviewed worse at a 4.3. Only DotMM ranks worse, and it is barely and "adventure" at all.

Overall, my assessment is this; in popularity, Tyranny of Dragons is pretty solid, but this may have more to do with it being "first," rather than anything else. In quality, the first half, Hoard, is solidly below average and possibly the "worst" adventure for 5e. The second half however, RoT, is solidly average quality.

Again this doesn't mean Tyranny of Dragons is bad, because we are comparing it to the other mostly well-received adventures. But comparably, for someone like me who doesn't have every adventure, it may be more valuable to pick up Storm King's Thunder or Ghosts of Saltmarsh instead of this book.
 

Hurin70

Adventurer
That's a cogent, well researched, and fair assessment, Urriak. Thanks for that.

I am perfectly fine leaving that as the last word on this issue: it seems both reasonable and comprehensive to me.

What do we say folks? Can we use this to bury the hatchet, before it does any more d6s of damage?
 

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