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The Suicide Squad (Spoilers after OP)


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Rabulias

Hero
I enjoyed it. It had the expected James Gunn touches, but I think they gave away the best bits in the trailers (as many movies do these days :-\ ). I think they would have had more impact/more funny in context.

Note to those who have not seen it: there is a scene after all the credits, but it's mainly setting up for a different (non-Suicide Squad, I think) movie.
 

Retreater

Legend
I haven't seen any of the other Suicide Squad movies. I tried to watch the first one and found the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship so problematic that I was disgusted. Not to mention, the movie just seemed awful.

Is it okay to watch this one without the others?
 

Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
I haven't seen any of the other Suicide Squad movies. I tried to watch the first one and found the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship so problematic that I was disgusted. Not to mention, the movie just seemed awful.

Is it okay to watch this one without the others?
Oh, yes, no prior viewing needed.
 

Note to those who have not seen it: there is a scene after all the credits, but it's mainly setting up for a different (non-Suicide Squad, I think) movie.
It's a setup for a tv show on HBO max
The biggest disappointment for me was king shark didn't say "king shark is a shark" lol also bloodsport made me think of Armory from batman beyond.
 


payn

Hero
The Good; I love the music in Gunn's movies! The characters were a lot of fun. My favorite part was polka dot man seeing his mother in everyone.

The Bad;
The writing could have been better. Some of the dialogue feels like a miss.

The Ugly;
Too many F-bombs reminding us constantly that this is an R rated movie. After another attempt, The Suicide Squad concept itself just might not be a very good one.

I give it three out of five stars.
 

Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
Okay, my full take, now that the thread's a few days old.

There's no character development except for Bloodsport and Nanaue. Bloodsport, obviously, gets the arc from "bad" guy to "not as bad guy who tries to help," except, this isn't really much of an arc because we always see him helping (he joins the team to save his daughter!). We mostly get his "I'm bad" from him telling us so often rather than actually seeing it. So, on second thought, Bloodsport doesn't really have much of an arc. Which leaves Nanaue, who does, even if it's simple and trite. He goes from eating machine to eating machine with the power of friendship! He chooses to have friends and act differently towards them. Pretty basic, rather trite, but it's the standout character development of the movie.

The big bad is confused, badly. I had thought that, given the lead up and fight over the evidence of US involvement in the experiments, that the actual Starfish thing was going to turn out to be 'not a bad guy.' That the 'bad guy' was going to be a combination of the different team goals and having to deal with the entirety of the corrupt military of the island without support from Waller (even hinderance from Waller). But, nope, that wraps up neatly in time for the Starfish to go on a rampage with an explicit goal of eating everyone on the island. Why Waller was okay with this, I'm not sure, unless the heroes missed the clear kryptonite of ocean water, because I don't understand why the Starfish was not going to be able to walk/use boats/move to the mainland. Failure to provide limits to the threat. But, I digress. So the Starfish is the bad guy, again, and, as such, pretty underwhelming. The final action scene was pretty bland.

Now, to some other complaints. Harley was awesome with the Presidente. I mean, I loved that sequence -- it showcased her very well throughout, and the shooting after he started saying he was going to feed his enemies to the Starfish was fantastic! Especially the bits where she talked to him as he was dying as if it was a normal conversation. Clearly shows Harley as off her rocker dangerous. But, then, they have her captured. And tortured. And, suddenly, Harley is able to tear through the building of soldiers as if they're toddlers -- she's never in any danger, she's a force of nature, and doesn't even get a scratch tearing through the building. Something she hasn't ever done, nor shown was possible in this movie, as she was captured twice by those same soldiers. It was just weird, and seemed to be put together so that she isn't rescued by Team All Boys. I mean, I get that, but they could have done that scene where Harley stays Harley instead of combat goddess Harley. It was weird. Oh, and Ratcatcher 2 is a bigger threat than the Starfish. Like, wow.

All that said, I actually enjoyed this flick. Probably due to Gunn's humorous influence. I felt it was way better integrated than the first one, and a solid entry into the franchise. I have a pretty low opinion of most of the recent post Snyder Batman DC flicks due to how they seem to really misunderstand the characters, so this one actually rates at the top because it mostly doesn't misunderstand it's characters. Or, maybe, it's using characters I'm not familiar with so it doesn't grate on my like watching Superman get mangled.
 

Or, maybe, it's using characters I'm not familiar with so it doesn't grate on my like watching Superman get mangled.
I only knew king shark other than Rick and Harley, and that was due to his appearance in the DC animated movies. The others were a complete mystery to me.

Like I told my brother in some ways this one was better than the 2016 one, while in other ways that one was better.

As for Starro, he doesn't eat he enslaves people.

"Have you come to save me from that madman?! Thirty years he's kept me here...tortured me...had his way with me!''" way to go guys you pissed off an alien who was pretty chill with just drifting in space.
 

I enjoyed it quite a bit. I mean, I’d likely prefer a more grounded take on the Squad instead of it being so gonzo….but this was a fun movie.

In a way it did remind me of the classic comic I read as a kid because it essentially embraces the DCU in all its absurdity. From Peacemaker’s outfit to Polka Dot Man’s ridiculous power to Starro the Conqueror….this movie takes those elements and uses them as they are without being embarrassed to do so.

That was a breath of fresh air.

Aside from that, the movie does have some flaws, but none are so terrible as to ruin my enjoyment of it.
 

Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
I only knew king shark other than Rick and Harley, and that was due to his appearance in the DC animated movies. The others were a complete mystery to me.

Like I told my brother in some ways this one was better than the 2016 one, while in other ways that one was better.

As for Starro, he doesn't eat he enslaves people.

"Have you come to save me from that madman?! Thirty years he's kept me here...tortured me...had his way with me!''" way to go guys you pissed off an alien who was pretty chill with just drifting in space.
They had a line that he feeds on the mental energy of the people he enslaves, and another that they're effectively dead once taken.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I liked it,especially for a DC movie, though I still prefer Shazam, I’m also happy that BS and the Snyderverse has been adandoned and buried.

Unfortunately the trailers revealed too much of the story which was adequate for the Suicide Squad set up. I did like the in media res start and use of flashbacks and comic book frames. The death of Captain Boomerang was unexpected, so kudos for that.

I dont tend to like gore but this had much less than I expected from review comments, I actually thought it was rather tame for something that references Suicide. It did have too much swearing and peacemakers unfunny lines were in the trailer.

The Harley-Presidente scene and the conversation on the bus were nice, The final resolution was a bit ratty though,

Enjoyable, fun movie, that embraces its gonzo comic book nature
 

cmad1977

Hero
I mean…. The movie set out to do a job and did it.

Didn’t take itself too seriously, which I think was something missing from the previous version.

I enjoyed its
 

Stalker0

Legend
Clearly an improvement over the original. Much better pacing and focused on what I wanted to see.

I consider it a solid Superhero movie, probably solidly average, which is a step up for DC whose movies have generally not been great
 

Retreater

Legend
It was a decent flick. I thought it ran about 30 minutes too long. Harley still grates on my nerves. The entire sequence with the president could've been cut for time - and just started with her captured by the general.
Also, does Harley not have an explosive chip or tracking module? Was that explained in a previous movie?
 

wicked cool

Adventurer
i enjoyed it. Was actually surprised with the surviving lineup. If i had been taking bets i would have bet on slightly different people surviving

At times it felt a l little long but the bad guy was far superior to the orginal bad guys from the first 1.

Capaldi and polka dot man were the show stealers! I didn't know anything about polka dot and i hope we see him in future comic book stories.

what were those strange fish that tried to eat shark? they clearly weren't starfish
Starfish walking was silly and i wish they did something a little different with its movement. Does it act like that in the comics?

i probably would have edited out some of the stuff in the middle of the movie as it dragged (for me ) during that time
 

Nikosandros

Golden Procrastinator
I found it mildly entertaining. It was an OK way to spend the evening, but I don't think I'm going to watch it again in the future. As mentioned by others, the writing wasn't great and I found some of the scenes telegraphed (like Polka-Dot Man demise).
 

payn

Hero
It was a decent flick. I thought it ran about 30 minutes too long. Harley still grates on my nerves. The entire sequence with the president could've been cut for time - and just started with her captured by the general.
Also, does Harley not have an explosive chip or tracking module? Was that explained in a previous movie?
Cut the president sequence!? It was one of the best of the entire movie! TSS did seem a little long but thats pretty much all comic book movies now. Pretty sure she had the explodo chip like the whole squad did. Guess Gunn left out an insertion scene which would have made the movie even longer.
Capaldi and polka dot man were the show stealers! I didn't know anything about polka dot and i hope we see him in future comic book stories.
I did enjoy polka dot man that was an excellent character. However, I thought Capaldi's character was disappointing. With a character like The Thinker you'd expect some type of double or triple cross to complicate the plot. All Thinker does is info dump and get killed...
 

Starfish walking was silly and i wish they did something a little different with its movement. Does it act like that in the comics?
umm yeah
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Stalker0

Legend
My scene stealer was actually rat catcher 2, she brought some actual heart and emotion to the movie, was my fav character by far.

yeah my issue was the thinker is I never actually saw him think…he didn’t do one cool thing in the whole movie.
 

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