The Superman Returns spoiler thread.

Nuclear Platypus said:
Oh, the hard work we must do. ;)

IIRC, shortly after Superman appears publicly, the kid interrupts a distracted (and eavesdropping) Clark since "dad's office is so boring". Lois comes over and introduces the munchkin (and her husband too), who then has an asthma attack but his aspirator is empty.

Even the dad kinda wondered about it after Lois gave him all sorts of Super-info then asked how tall Clark was, who just kinda waved goofily, right before Jimmy, Richard and "Trashcan Head" went on a food run.

Oh, the shiny rock, er, Kryptonite that Luthor and the gang got from the museum was also from the same place as the original rock that (Hackman) Luthor swiped in the original Superman - Addis Ababa.

I remember that scene, Louis and Richard were joking about clark being superman, but how did the kid "realize" it?
 

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Mrs. Noah and I saw it at the Imax today. It was very good, very enjoyable. It wasn't the best movie I ever saw but I liked it better than any of the prior Superman movies and most of the Batman movies. It had some parts that dragged, like the "is superman dead" stuff toward the end. I'm not sure I dig the son angle. But overall a very entertaining movie. I have to say the 3D stuff didn't really add to the experience for me, however.
 

I liked it. Yes, Lois could have been better cast, but I was impressed with the choices they took with the movie (a son, a stepfather, etc.). This shows that Superman (the archtypical Good Guy) is living in a modern family.

I was suprised to read the negativity here, but then my opinions don't always match Enworld in general.

Anyhow, I look forward to the sequels. I will pay money to see them, rather than, say X-Men. :)
 

BrooklynKnight said:
I remember that scene, Louis and Richard were joking about clark being superman, but how did the kid "realize" it?

The kid looked at Clark's face then had an asthma attack. Who'd believe that anyone could hide a secret identity behind a pair of glasses? Maybe it'd work for some boneheaded adult but that kid was pretty sharp ("You're bald.") ;)
 


I saw the movie Tuesday night. I liked it a lot, even in a packed audience (with one woman/model in the audience wearing a Supergirl outfit, complete with cape, super-bikini, and thigh high red boots).

In hindsight, yes, I think the plot was a little preposturous. However, they were trying to connect it to Superman 1 & 2.

In Superman 2, if I recall correctly, Lex visits the Fortress of Solitude with the phantom zone criminals. So Lex had some understanding of how the crystals work.

In Superman 1, Lex tried a land grab with nuclear weapons (blasting california into the sea). So this was basically trying for the same goal as before, but this time with kryptonian technology.

Lex having incompetent and/or treacherous minions is normal, so no suprises there.

Kevin Spacey added the former prisoner psychology to Lex's behavior, right down to knifing Superman after he had been weakened by kryptonite.

Lois's child and new man in her life was an interesting twist. Is it what I would have done? Nope. But neither would I have let Superman turn back time in Superman I to save Lois.

So from a purist perspective, they took liberties with the Superman story. As did Batman Begins, but I can live with the liberties they took.

I liked the movie.
 

Just came back from seeing Superman.

I just have to say that it's been a disappointing summer for movies so far. With the exception of MI:III (the only one I kinda enjoyed, but that wasnt that great either) everything that I've seen has been average at best.

Superman returns was no exception.

Brandon Routh was a good Superman and hands down the best thing in the movie.
The plane rescue was a good sequence.
But that was it.

A 5 out of 10.
 

I got chills (good ones) after the plane sequence. That was a Superman action sequence.

Singer may have gone a different route, but in tying the movie to the first two, he may have limited his options. He uses many concepts and ideas from the first two, and usually to great effect. The "son becomes the father" and "father becomes the son" line comes straight from Brando. The facial expressions of Routhe, very Reevish. Williams' score, classic. The opening credits, as with the originals, though thankfully whisking by at a faster pace.

See it with kids, yours or someone else's (get permission if they aren't yours!). Be a kid, not a critic. Lucas didn't ruin your childhood memories, and Singer didn't turn Superman into something he's not!

Do like the woman mentioned above. Wear a red cape and boots. If you wanna dress up like Supergirl, that's optional. :p
 


DonTadow said:
yeah, Supes wanted you to believe he disapeared for five years and she grows up five years, but they look like a bunch of kids headed ot the prom. If they are going with a golden age fill they should cast an older looking superman.

The problem with that is that this is supposed to be the relaunch of a franchise, with sequels, probably spread over 10 years or so (assuming a trilogy). Singer has said that he was aware he was casting young, but didn't want them aging dramatically for the next two films. It's a supsension of disbelief thing.
 

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