the tablet war is heating up

[IronWolf]

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Interesting option! Nice to have the drops, spills and such covered - especially with a device like a tablet.

 

[falcarrion]

apple released there quarter numbers today. They sold 4.69 million Ipads( 1 and 2 combined). They said they sold every ipad 2 they had.

Thats just amazing.

Note this represents units shipped not any that are on backorder.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Not really sure what you are getting at here or if I'm being agreed with or disagreed with. Bottom line is that that comparable Android tablet apps will come in due time just like that already did for their phones.

I was getting at the fact that Google locking down the screen sizes on the tablets will actually make it easier to dev. for Honey Comb tablets, so what you said about us getting a better notion about how developers view Honeycomb this summer and fall will be true (at least for the US and Europe). Because like it or not, having to dev for 8+ different screen sizes (between phones and talets) really is hurting android more then it is benefiting it.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Breaking news:
Apple sues Samsung for copying the Iphone and Ipad.

Verizon brings out LTE-riding MiFi 4510L, asks for $100 on a two-year contract or $270 without -- Engadget

I personally think this lawsuit shows that Apple is Scared of Samsung and they believe that the Samsung tablets will actually compete well against the iDevice. After all, how long has Samsung been making devices with a similar aesthetic? Two years?

The lawsuit coming now right before Galaxy 10.1 is release screams desperation rather then IP protection.

 

[Fast Learner]

I personally think this lawsuit shows that Apple is Scared of Samsung and they believe that the Samsung tablets will actually compete well against the iDevice. After all, how long has Samsung been making devices with a similar aesthetic? Two years?

In the earnings call today Apple said they've been discussing the matter with Samsung and haven't been able to come to terms. In addition, Samsung is a major supplier of iPhone and iPad components, so suing them isn't something they'd do lightly.

The lawsuit coming now right before Galaxy 10.1 is release screams desperation rather then IP protection.

Yeah, Apple's surely feeling desperate. Another record quarter, the 20th consecutive outperforming the industry, the most valuable tech company in the world and the second-most valuable period, 190 million iOS devices sold including 20 million iPads, 95% year-over-year profit growth making $6 billion in profit last quarter alone, selling 85% of all tablets last year. So, so desperate.

 

[falcarrion]

Apple was Samsung's second-largest client in 2010, following Sony. Apple reportedly accounted for 4 percent of Samsung's $142 billion in revenue last year, or $5.68 billion.

I don't think Apple is scared in the least. I doubt Samsung is ready to loose Apple as a client. $5.68 billion loss would be hard for them to replace.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Apple was Samsung's second-largest client in 2010, following Sony. Apple reportedly accounted for 4 percent of Samsung's $142 billion in revenue last year, or $5.68 billion.

I don't think Apple is scared in the least. I doubt Samsung is ready to loose Apple as a client. $5.68 billion loss would be hard for them to replace.

If you are dead certain that a competitor will never be able to eat into your sales then they designed something that has a similar aesthetic to your own or their coming up with something similar to your ip, then it wouldn't matter. However, since each Samsung Android device sold is one less iPhone, iPod or iPad sold, Apple has something to worry about since if someone decides to buy a Samsung android device their is a slight chance that they might not buy the next iDevice version when it is released ( or even skip 2+ releases) or that they might decide to leave the walled garden for good.

So yea, they are scared. They are scared that they might loose another percentage point to tens of percentage points from their market share because their competitor/supplier is building something someone might want to buy.

 

[Fast Learner]

If you are dead certain that a competitor will never be able to eat into your sales then they designed something that has a similar aesthetic to your own or their coming up with something similar to your ip, then it wouldn't matter.

But of course they know better. Heck, 6% of tablet sales last year were these Samsung copycats. They're not dumb.

However, since each Samsung Android device sold is one less iPhone, iPod or iPad sold, Apple has something to worry about since if someone decides to buy a Samsung android device their is a slight chance that they might not buy the next iDevice version when it is released ( or even skip 2+ releases) or that they might decide to leave the walled garden for good.

Except of course that's not true. There are lots of people -- likely you included -- who would never buy an iPad but might well buy a Samsung tablet. It's far from a zero-sum game.

So yea, they are scared. They are scared that they might loose another percentage point to tens of percentage points from their market share because their competitor/supplier is building something someone might want to buy.

Seriously, "scared" and "desperation" are incredibly far off base. They know full well that other tablets will sell and that 85% of the market is the highest they'll ever be, and that they'll likely slip below 70% this year. They're extremely talented businesspeople who will put in their best effort to maintain their lead and make money and fully understand the market they're in.

They're not scared, and they're not even remotely desperate.

 

[John Crichton]

I was getting at the fact that Google locking down the screen sizes on the tablets will actually make it easier to dev. for Honey Comb tablets, so what you said about us getting a better notion about how developers view Honeycomb this summer and fall will be true (at least for the US and Europe). Because like it or not, having to dev for 8+ different screen sizes (between phones and talets) really is hurting android more then it is benefiting it.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

 

[falcarrion]

If you are dead certain that a competitor will never be able to eat into your sales then they designed something that has a similar aesthetic to your own or their coming up with something similar to your ip, then it wouldn't matter. However, since each Samsung Android device sold is one less iPhone, iPod or iPad sold, Apple has something to worry about since if someone decides to buy a Samsung android device their is a slight chance that they might not buy the next iDevice version when it is released ( or even skip 2+ releases) or that they might decide to leave the walled garden for good.

So yea, they are scared. They are scared that they might loose another percentage point to tens of percentage points from their market share because their competitor/supplier is building something someone might want to buy.

It would be easy to say the same thing with Samsung being the one who is scared. And with the numbers as the facts behind it.
The apple iphone revenue rose to $11.9 billion in the last quarter and Nokia slipped to $9.4 billion. Which makes makes the Iphone the top in worldwide revenue.