D&D General The War Between Vecna and the Raven Queen: Origins, Thoughts, and Campaign/World-Building Ideas

[Minigiant]

My own version of 4e imports Hades and has a 5 way battle over the Underworld and thought between Raven Queen, Vecna, Hades, Lolth, and Zehir

Zehir evolves to a god of Immortality and "Not Thinking" and basically becomes Warhammer's Nurgle but stabby and snakey

God	What information do they offer	What afterlife do they offer
Raven Queen	Truth of Known event	A chance to dwell in the paradise of your patron god
Hades	New Discoveries unknown	Chance to dwell in the nice part of the Underworld
Vecna	A Secret	A chance to escape afterlife punishment via undeath
Lolth	A lie and the ways to make others believe the lie	Escape death by shoving soul into a clone
Zehir	Blissful Ignorance	Can't go to Hell if you never die. Can't suffer in Hell if you can't think nor feel

 

[Seramus]

Fun Fact: Vecna's first name is Jkca.

 

[Fenris-77]

Why are we fashed about the place of the Raven Queen in the 'lore' (shudder).

 

[RoughCoronet0]

Why are we fashed about the place of the Raven Queen in the 'lore' (shudder).

 

[Davies]

Fun Fact: Vecna's first name is Jkca.

You're misinformed. It's Hojn-Koorbrolh.

 

[Seramus]

You're misinformed. It's Hojn-Koorbrolh.

I know not what fires burn in your mind, but they smoke like madness to me!

 

[Davies]

I know not what fires burn in your mind, but they smoke like madness to me!

Spoiler

Full name: John Holbrook Vance.

 

[Voadam]

Looking at the Raven Queen's entry in the 4e PH I don't see anything about knowledge as part of her domain.

The Raven Queen
Unaligned
The name of the god of death is long forgotten, but she is called the Raven Queen. She is the spinner of fate and the patron of winter. She marks the end of each mortal life, and mourners call upon her during funeral rites, in the hope that she will guard the departed from the curse of undeath.
She expects her followers to abide by these commandments:
✦ Hold no pity for those who suffer and die, for death is the natural end of life.
✦ Bring down the proud who try to cast off the chains of fate. As the instrument of the Raven Queen, you must punish hubris where you find it.
✦ Watch for the cults of Orcus and stamp them out whenever they arise. The Demon Prince of the Undead seeks to claim the Raven Queen’s throne.

The 5e DMG entry is even more terse:

Raven Queen, goddess of death LN Suggested Domains Life, Death Symbol Raven's head, in profile, facing left

Did she get expanded on in a 4e dragon article or somewhere else?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Looking at the Raven Queen's entry in the 4e PH I don't see anything about knowledge as part of her domain.

The Raven Queen
Unaligned
The name of the god of death is long forgotten, but she is called the Raven Queen. She is the spinner of fate and the patron of winter. She marks the end of each mortal life, and mourners call upon her during funeral rites, in the hope that she will guard the departed from the curse of undeath.
She expects her followers to abide by these commandments:
✦ Hold no pity for those who suffer and die, for death is the natural end of life.
✦ Bring down the proud who try to cast off the chains of fate. As the instrument of the Raven Queen, you must punish hubris where you find it.
✦ Watch for the cults of Orcus and stamp them out whenever they arise. The Demon Prince of the Undead seeks to claim the Raven Queen’s throne.

The 5e DMG entry is even more terse:

Raven Queen, goddess of death LN Suggested Domains Life, Death Symbol Raven's head, in profile, facing left

Did she get expanded on in a 4e dragon article or somewhere else?

A lot, IIRC. Also in the write ups for several races, some classes, Paragon Paths, and Epic Destinies, etc.

 

[Voadam]

A lot, IIRC. Also in the write ups for several races, some classes, Paragon Paths, and Epic Destinies, etc.

But nothing like the single source lore deep dives like the one for Bane in Dragon or Vecna in Open Grave?

I know the Shadar Kai have a deep connection.