This legal by RAW?

1> assuming the Silver Scale is like a bloodline, it may either burn up a feat or a LA. If you talking about the familiar, thats covered well just up one post.

2> Yes, you can just go out to your freindly neighborhood Dire Owl nursery, drop 5000 on the Owl itself, plus a healthy amount for someone to have trained it for war... then ensure there is enough food for said Owl each day....
How much is the wealth guidelines for a 5th level character? :)

I would say DM should nix the Owl just based on cost, let alone upkeep or training. If the player really wants a Dire Owl mount, he/she needs to find someone to trap and train a Dire Owl for him... which will cost much more. I don't expect there would be many Dire Owl handlers floating around.

3> Get the name of the spell and where it is from, sounds like a custom 'kewl' spell.


Overall.. yes it sounds like the character is not correctly built and could use a review. The DM should also take a lesson in restricting to PHB only until he/she has more experience running the game. Most players should be willing to accept that restriction since it improves the game overall.
 

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DungeonMaester said:
Also, during the game he summoned 6 feindish apes and a aspect of bahument (Good dragon god, can't spell his name) Is that possible for a 5th level sorc to do?

Hm. The aspect of bahamut.
I think you should really look in Races of the Dragon, if you have access to it.
There's the "Dragonborn" template There's this spell called.. "Summon Aspect of Bahamut" 7th lvl Cleric spell.

Also. The fiendish ape is a 3rd level summon.. He could, with a lucky dice, get 5 of them with Summon Monster V (sor/wiz 5)...

Edit: He could be a "Spellscale" (Also 3.0), but then he wouldn't be a gnome!

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The character is certainly broken.
 
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I won't answer the questions that have already been answered (the Familiar and the Owlbear).

Touch of Idiocy is a 2nd level spell that does ability damage, as does Touch of Clumsiness and Touch of Weakness.

Silverscale, I'm assuming, is one of the racial types outlined in Dragon Magic. These are +0 LA races, so he's fine there.

Honestly, I'd sit down with him and ask him where each of his races and such came from. Have him show you his spell list and where each spell comes from. Ask him why he thinks he can have a Pseudodragon familiar two levels lower than normally available. Just ask him questions.

If he refuses, ask the DM. If he refuses the DM, he's not following the rules of the game. Have a group intervention.

-TRRW
 

theredrobedwizard said:
Honestly, I'd sit down with him and ask him where each of his races and such came from. Have him show you his spell list and where each spell comes from. Ask him why he thinks he can have a Pseudodragon familiar two levels lower than normally available. Just ask him questions.

I second this call. Make the player show where everything comes from: books, pages, quote the source. If there is a list of sources, make sure that this is being followed. Have the player go through the rules and explain them so that others can check as well

Be sure that the DM is aware of your concerns. I don't necessarily say scale back everything to the Core three book, such as if the group uses FR material all the time, but make sure that those books are the only sources available until the DM is comfy with DM'ing.

Also you could suggest to the DM some help with "policing" the rules. There can be a lot of them, and some can be obscure. One person teaches the rest of the group whenever it comes up in play.

I'd also provide quotes from participants in other games with this player, just to show that you have grounds for converns.
 

kattehus said:
Edit: He could be a "Spellscale" (Also 3.0), but then he wouldn't be a gnome!
The character is certainly broken.

That ain't 3.0. Draconomicon, Dragon Magic, Races of the Dragon, etc. are all 3.5 supplements.

I assume this 'silver scale' thing is from one of those three books.

OP: Are you sure it's a dire owl, not a giant owl? Giant owls are relatively nice and intelligent creatures, and can be trained as mounts or the like without too much trouble, but they're rare and quite large (thus expensive). Dire owls, on the other hand, would be more vicious and much less intelligent, so tougher to train. I don't even know where you'd find dire owl stats anyway.....

A dire owl would cost about 2,500 gp to train as a mount, plus whatever it costs to get a dire owl in the first place (thus, probably more expensive in total than a giant owl). This is based on the Arms & Equipment Guide's sidebar on exotic creature training costs.

Also, it's likely that a dire owl (but not a giant owl) is 'ill-suited to being a mount', so the Ride skill would take a -5 penalty on any Ride checks. That's up to DM adjudication though.


You need to demand that the DM take a look at his character sheet and verify where each thing on his sheet comes from. It's the DM's right, and responsibility. The new PC's total Effective Character Level should be the same or lower than the older PCs' level. So if the new PC has a Level Adjustment higher than +0, or some racial hit dice, he should have fewer class levels. And of course, if anything on the sheet is wrong, the DM has every right to remove/revoke those wrong parts and demand the character be fixed to fit the same character creation guidelines as the rest of the party's PCs.

A 5th-level sorcerer should only be casting 2nd-level spells. Unless his funky race/template gives a special ability that does otherwise, he should only be able to cast Summon Monster II at most (and he should only know a few spells in total, if he's a Sorcerer; do you know what his actual class is?). Fiendish apes can only be summoned with Summon Monster III or higher, and only 1 such ape per casting (or a maximum of 3 such apes with SM IV, or a maximum of 5 such apes with SM V); all three of these are higher level than what a 5th-level Sorcerer could cast.


As for summoning those and using a good-aligned spell in the same encounter: it's possible for an arcane spellcaster, unless his race or other things specifically prevent him from casting Evil spells. Sorcerers, Wizards, and Bards can cast spells of any alignment, regardless of their own alignment, but it does count as a Chaotic/Evil/Good/Lawful act, as appropriate to the alignment of the spell (so frequent casting could change his alignment at the DM's discretion, but only if the PC doesn't cast more Good-aligned spells than Evil ones). Only divine casters, like Clerics, are normally forbidden from casting spells of an opposed alignment.
 

Thank you every one for all of your support. I had warned the Dm before hand that the player in question has been known to break the rules before and should monitored. There is no dought in my mind that it the the same case. However, the DM has been ignoring me when I try to chat with him and reason. Yet, all the other players seem to be behind me as well. it has turned into one big mess. Our games are Wensday, which time I will move for the player to provided sources for his character's actions or have him leave.

---Rusty
 

Hello all. I am the DM that Rusty was referring to. I would just like to point out a few minor errors in his opening, and thank you for your suggestions about dealing with him.
First off, he is a Gnome Dragonborn of Bahamut Sorceror. Went through the whole ritual and everything.
Second, his owl is a Giant Owl, not a Dire Owl. He did not buy it, he rescued it, and it travels and helps him out of gratitude.
Finally, this Psudodragon is a new familiar, since becoming Dragonborn. His original died, he went the year and a day needed, and asked me if a psudodragon would be appropriate as a familiar because of his new strong affinity with dragons. I agreed, thinking it logical. I and Rusty will speak with him as to where he's getting the other stuff on our next game session.
 



Yes, yes.

It is pertinent to say the reason i started this thread was my suspicions where fueled by the 5th level sorc having a aspect of Bahuament (spelling) and 6 fiendish apes in play at fifth level.

---Rusty
 

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