This PDF cover has to be seen...

[Steel_Wind]

" Trying to make someone feel guilty because you have a different benchmark than you do isn't a great tactic."

I'm really not sure what you mean. I invite you to clarify it.

Edit: Ah you have. Quite so.

My objection wasn't to the reviews. It was to the Myspace and other art postings business getting dragged into it. It seemed to make the thread a personal one.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Exactly, Silverblade!

I was defending Poser, Vue, and other 3D art apps. Thanks for clarifying my point for me!

Isn't debate wonderful?

Ah!
No worries bud, sorry, I wasn't sure which side of that debate ye were on, as yer original post may have been in "/sarcasm mode", you know?

hell I cna't draw a decent stick man, lol, so I use 3D as I'm good at building things and having ideas for scenes, I just can't paint.

Pirate Cat,
well, I couldn't do much better, fi at all, if I tried drawing
I know this, but I also know folk can do MUCH better, hence the pdf creator should have, IMHO, aksed aorund for a better peice of artwork for their book.

the book itself maybe awesome, but that is nto good quality artwork, which will hurt thier sales.

I'd quite happily give a list of artists/sites that maybe good to ask for art for use

this is a semi-nuide so, maybe wrong to post the link? but it shows some of the odd but fantastic work that can be done in 3D. reminds me very much of the Lady of Pain!

NTSFW!
~* Unicornst *~ (Protecter of Unicorns) by calum5 Poser Fantasy

 

[the Jester]

Perhaps so. But I think there that where posters start otherwise tracking down the guy, his myspace and artwanted postings -- and otherwise go beyond the product described or "reviewed", all of which is done in an effort to hold the guy's work up as an example for ridicule by the group...

That's where it passes from fair comment to piling on. That's where I see somone getting collectively kicked when he's down.

True, when we hold up things he's done, er, not professionally (shut up, all of you), that's different. OTOH he's also put them up online, which is about as public of a space as you can achieve. I'm not saying it's right to dogpile him, but I do think anyone that publishes art online, no matter how good their art, has to expect it. (Again, not that it's right.)

But there's another issue that we all seem to have overlooked here, regarding the quality of this fellow's work. Does anyone buy it? If so, it's good enough for someone. And that's just fine. If this guy makes a living with his art, then, despite any mockery, he is a professional artist.

 

[doctorhook]

FIE! FIE on you for suggesting such a vile thing. There are things in FATAL that should NEVER be illustrated.

DOOM. DOOOOOOOOM!

Haha Well, upon perusal of his other drawings, it just seemed like his artistic style would be a good match for the unspeakable horrors described in that despicable tome by "The Mad Arab" Abdul Alhazr-, I mean Byron Hall.

Incidentally, the piece of artwork that this thread is referring to seems to be a part of a larger nude piece called "Devils Bride with Wings" on this guy's art page. Perhaps not ironically, the artist begins his description of the piece with "Devils Bride is more like Frankenstein's Bride...". You don't say, buddy.

 

[olshanski]

Obviously the artist does better stuff than I do.
I wouldn't knock it though... I like the Stanislaw Lem doodles in "Cyberiad":

 

[Stormonu]

In all fairness to the publisher, I will admit that artistically I certainly couldn't do better, and as a potential customer,
he already lost me at • Copy/paste disabled...

Yeah, that was a red flag for me too.

I have no desire to make personal attacks against the author; I can see the enthusiasm in his writing - he clearly believes he has something valuable to share with the world, and I can see the kernels of some good ideas in the sample. But his works need a lot of polishing to bring it up to a professional standard.

I feel like I should write a review of his work in the hopes of getting him to improve it, but I don't want to lay out the money - or ask for a free sample and just end up criticizing the work.

 

[Piratecat]

Obviously the artist does better stuff than I do.
I wouldn't knock it though... I like the Stanislaw Lem doodles in "Cyberiad":

Anyone saying anything bad about Stanislaw Lem or the Cyberiad gets banninnated. You've been warned! Warned, I tell you. WARNED!

Ahem.

 

[renau1g]

*Opens mouth...then sees P-cats post and promptly shuts it again*

Yes...I also like those drawings...

 

[Jdvn1]

Wow, when I originally saw this, I honestly assumed it was the guy's kid doing the art or something.

I've got to imagine that the company isn't doing so well, and the guy's trying to make a living at doing this. Why else the high price? Every small time third party publisher I've seen says not to expect to make a living off of it, though.

 

[ExploderWizard]

Heh. I plan on submitting a self-illustrated module to Dragonsfoot soon. It will be free but I better make sure it's up to snuff!