D&D 3E/3.5 Thoughts on 3e Revised?

[Shard O'Glase]

DMs are in control. Any DM who whines should be put in the stocks and whipped with a cat-o-nine-tails. In any case, DMs shouldn't whine when baddies get stomped...that's what they're there for. There's always MORE!

Or the next big bad has Spell Turning. Or Spell Resistance. Or a hundred other things that will foil players who rely on the same trick for every encounter. e.g. True Seeing works wonders on the player who decides to make Phantasmal Killer his crutch.

Wait:

...making harm higher level than slay living is "smart"? Coulda fooled me.

Not getting into a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate.

 

[kreynolds]

There's nothing wrong with it.

Oh, except for the fact that it makes whiny players whine more, and louder.

But I thought it was supposed to do that. Isn't that the secondary effect of the spell (also no save)?

 

[Stalker0]

That would be nice if wotc released like a page at a time to the forum for review.

we'd have it cleaned up in no time

Personally, I just think its WOTC out for more money. I'll be angry if its mostly just adding error clarifications that should have been fixed in the first place.

However, if it does have some new material, then I say let them make a buck or two

 

[IceBear]

Well, they are a company in business, so they have to make money somewhere. If they keep popping out the source books like TSR did, then we'll start complaining about them like we did then too

Ah, aren't we a fickle bunch

IceBear

 

[Stalker0]

Well, they are a company in business, so they have to make money somewhere. If they keep popping out the source books like TSR did, then we'll start complaining about them like we did then too

Ah, aren't we a fickle bunch

IceBear

And God bless us, everyone

 

[Lucius Foxhound]

Not getting into a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate, not getting ito a harm debate.

Of come on, Shard ... get into it! You know you want to...

 

[James McMurray]

For the last time, they won't change harm. There's nothing wrong with it.

Oh, except for the fact that it makes whiny players whine more, and louder. But that's not exactly the best reason to revise something, now is it?

That was the most thinly veiled troll I've seen around here in a long time. I'm surprised it actually managed to suck some people in.

 

[dcollins]

Hmmm... is anyone out there PLAYTESTING these supposed balancing changes in the revised edition?

I sure hope this doesn't become another 2nd-Edition-style "we think we know what's best for the game" hack-job...

 

[Tom Cashel]

That was the most thinly veiled troll I've seen around here in a long time. I'm surprised it actually managed to suck some people in.

Now this is the part where I shrilly deny that the harm post was a troll--

Except that it so was!

 

[Tom Cashel]

Tom Cashel--you magnificent double-posting bastard!