D&D General Thoughts On How To Get a New Race Over

[Alzrius]

The closest we have to foxes are the arcanaloth, though....

Or werefoxes, which as I recall were rather different from most lycanthropes (e.g. female-specific, changing their humanoid appearance to elven, etc.).

 

[DEFCON 1]

I think Aasimar has the best chance with the upcoming 2024 release. The thing that's held it back is uncertainty over version, since it was in the DMG and then in an expansion book as something else.

Unfortunately for them... they got hamstrung by 4E a bit when WotC made Devas in the second 4E PHB instead of them. Had Aasimar been in the PHB II instead of Devas, they'd be further ahead in the game to really break out in the 5E24 book.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

We DO have the tabaxi, which I've seen tweaked into catgirls and catboys.

Same with plasmoids and slime girls/boys.

The closest we have to foxes are the arcanaloth, though....

Shifters make good catgirls.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Maenads were D&D attempt to create Vulcans


Neko, catgirls, are pretty popular in Asia as well, so Kitsune would be a major challenge to it.

The 2e Kara-Tur Monstrous Compendium has the Hu Hsien (or Hu Xian if it was using the modern Pinyin spelling) it's the Chinese interpretation of the Fox Spirit.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Unfortunately for them... they got hamstrung by 4E a bit when WotC made Devas in the second 4E PHB instead of them. Had Aasimar been in the PHB II instead of Devas, they'd be further ahead in the game to really break out in the 5E24 book.

According to Forgotten Realms lore the Deva WAS the Aasimar.

 

[DEFCON 1]

According to Forgotten Realms lore the Deva WAS the Aasimar.

Yeah, but they weren't said to be the same in the PHB II I don't believe. I saw that decision for FR the same way they told us to use Goliaths as Half-Giants in Dark Sun and Dragonborn as Draconians in Dragonlance.

 

[Mephista]

I mean, there's nothing wrong with using a spiritual successor in the place of an older name and mechanics. They're technically different, but they fill pretty much the same niche and are otherwise really close. It makes sense to me.

Every new edition brings changes, and we all adapt. I personally don't think its a big deal...

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Yeah, but they weren't said to be the same in the PHB II I don't believe. I saw that decision for FR the same way they told us to use Goliaths as Half-Giants in Dark Sun and Dragonborn as Draconians in Dragonlance.

Its different, in DS they weren't saying Goliaths WERE Darksun Half Giants, they were just a useful set of mechnicals to use to replicate half giants.

The FRCG straight up said Devas was the Mulan word for Aasimar (or maybe it was the other way around, I forget), but they made it clear this was a statement in the lore, not just use this race as a game mechanics substitute for another race, Aasimar Incarnated Devas were equated to each other in the lore and that was backed up by the Aasimar/Incarnated Deva cleric of Mask in the novel Godborn.

 

[Argyle King]

Unfortunately for them... they got hamstrung by 4E a bit when WotC made Devas in the second 4E PHB instead of them. Had Aasimar been in the PHB II instead of Devas, they'd be further ahead in the game to really break out in the 5E24 book.

FWIW, I liked the general concept of 4E Divas.

I hope that concept makes it into a future campaign setting.

 

[Tonguez]

Or werefoxes, which as I recall were rather different from most lycanthropes (e.g. female-specific, changing their humanoid appearance to elven, etc.).

I remember the silver foxwomen, they were an interesting lycanthrope