Three feet of hewn stone, who can break it?

[apsuman]

again, this is interesting. Using bulls strength, the max that one can get is a +5. Using your strength domain ability, it says that you use all of your levels, not just your class levels, so no matter what at 20th level, you can achieve the +20 for one round, once perday. the Mighty Contender of Kord allows you to double this, and then you start adding in the other mods that you can get.

I didn't know the MCofKord would doulbe the STR domain abilities.

The point I was (trying to ) make was that a normal wizard would three times empower Bulls Str for 150% increase for an 8th level spell, so that +5 becomes +12.

An Incantrix can cast (a) metamagic feat with a one less casting level increase (I think - don't flame me if I am wrong) meaning that the empowered metamagic feat only increases the spell by 1 level, so 2nd level Bulls Str + 7 empowerments would make it a ninth level spell, that max +5 becomes increased by 350% so it becomes +22 enhancement to STR. (Again, I might be wrong).

A large caster (say a half dragon wiz ) that could polymorph into a cloud giant (huge) withan average of a 39 (from memory) str, then have the 7 times empower bulls str cast (and roll well) could have a 61 STR that way.

Again, forgive my mistakes, I am doing this from memory and 61 still doesn't cut it. My point tho was that everyone is working on the same way to boost str (the MCofKord) and I am curious if there is another way... that is all.


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[Ferret]

Thiers a Presige class that gets you Larger(no DD)

 

[Geo]

Well the one guy said it could be done with psionics, so that is another possible way. Realistically, though you have to have prestige classes to do it. I think shapechanging kinda takes away from it anyway, but it is a good suggestion. Where is the Incantrix at anyway?

 

[Akhkharu]

Isn't there a feat in MoW that increase your STR in rage to break things? Don't have any of the books with me, so I'm not sure on this.

 

[RogueJK]

Isn't there a feat in MoW that increase your STR in rage to break things? Don't have any of the books with me, so I'm not sure on this.

You're right! I also found that I had overlooked another +1 to strength that the MCoK gets.

So here we go with another round of math...

Half-Orc Brb1/Clr1/Ftr2/Sor1/Dragon Disciple4/Frenzied Berserker1/Mighty Contender of Kord10

Strength of 86. That's a +38 modifier.
(20 base + 5 levels + 5 Tome + 4 Dragon Disc. + 4 Rage + 6 Frenzy +2 Mighty Contender + 40 Strength domain)

Since he has the Destructive Rage feat, he gets a +8 bonus to Strength checks when atttempting to break inanimate objects.

So he has a grand total of +46 to his check. He only needs to roll a 4 or better now.

In a thread in the DnD Rules forum, we're currently debating whether or not the abililty really is linked to character level, instead of class level, so this whole thing might change in the near future. I'm pretty sure that it's still character level, though. If not, it will be IMC. It only lasts for one round anyway (unless you take the MCoK PrC).

 

[CRGreathouse]

I just realized we might be wrong completely. If the strength domain ability is only a class skill, then it is really hard to do it. You might still be able to, if you use the Mighty Contender of Kord Prestige Class. If it truly allows you to add your levels for the class, and doubles the power, then you would be able to have a 74 str with 10 levels of cleric, 10 levels of Mighty Contender. giving you a bonus of +40 to your strength with the ability, with the already 20 base, +5 book, +5 levels..., hmm, maybe you couldn't do it then at all. Bull's strength doesn't stack, so it would be a base of 70. you would have to roll a 20 to do it. but if you were a first level bar. and then 19 levels of the cleric, MC, you could get it up to 72.

The official ruling is that the Str domaibn ability is based on class level only.

 

[RogueJK]

Well, sh*t.

Okay, give me a few minutes and I'll work out another character.

[Edit] Here's he is...

Half-Orc Brb1/Clr8/Mighty Contender10/Frenzied Berserker1

Strength of 73. That’s a +31 modifier.
(18 base + 2 race + 5 levels + 5 Tome + 2 MCoK + 4 Rage + 6 Frenzy + 27 Strength domain + 4 Righteous Might)

The Destructive Rage feat gives him an additional +8 to his check, resulting in a final +39 to his strength check.

He would now have to roll an 11 or better. So it still could be done.

After 1d4+1 rounds, it drops to 46 (+18). After 3+Con rounds, it drops to 36 (+13). Finally, after 13 rounds, it drops to his normal score of 32.

 

[CRGreathouse]

The Destructive Rage feat gives him an additional +8 to his check, resulting in a final +39 to his strength check.

He would now have to roll an 11 or better. So it still could be done.

After 1d4+1 rounds, it drops to 46 (+18). After 3+Con rounds, it drops to 36 (+13). Finally, after 13 rounds, it drops to his normal score of 32.

Chance to break 3' of hewn stone by # of rounds:
1: 50%
2: 75%
3: 84%
4: 87%
5: 88%

 

[mmu1]

Hmm... Does the bonus of a Stone of Good Luck apply to Strentgh checks? If so, that's one more point... Also, isn't there an Ioun stone that gives a competence bonus to all checks?

 

[CRGreathouse]

Hmm... Does the bonus of a Stone of Good Luck apply to Strentgh checks? If so, that's one more point... Also, isn't there an Ioun stone that gives a competence bonus to all checks?

Yes, and yes! A luckstone and pale green ioun stone would increase the check by +2 (+1 competence, +1 luck), and change the chances to:

1: 60%
2: 84%
3: 91%
4: 93%
5: 93%