Three feet of hewn stone, who can break it?

[RogueJK]

Chance to break 3' of hewn stone by # of rounds:
1: 50%
2: 75%
3: 84%
4: 87%
5: 88%

Does this figure in the +8 bonus from Destructive Rage? I included it in the first bonus (+39), but the other two don't have it figured in. After 1d4+1 rounds, he would have a +26 to the check. But after 3+con rounds, he would lose the bonus from Destructive Rage, since it only works while Raging.

Or are those calculations only for those 1d4+1 rounds?

And, yes the Luckstone and Pale Green Ioun Stone would add to the Strength check. If you had both of those, his strength checks would have an additional +2 bonus.

Now he would hit on a 9 or better, with a bonus to the check of +41. After 1d4+1 rounds, the bonus would drop to +28. After 3+Con rounds, it would drop to +15. And finally, after 13 rounds, it would drop to his normal bonus of only +13.

But don't forget that he also has the Luck domain. So if he gets lower than a 9, he can just reroll it.

 

[Geo]

Okay, so according to Sage Advice, the Strength domain ability requires you to use your class level. Why then in the newest edition of the PHB does it still not say that? There are other domain abilities that say you need to use class levels, but it doesn't say that in the Sage Advice. Now, why is this, an aspect of the Dragon Magazing, the canon that all must follow. As far as I am concerned, only what is in the Newest Editions of the PHB, DMG, and the MM are the things you should worry about, all else is optional. Besides, it doesn't make sense that it would only be for the class level. Clearly the gods that take Strength as a domain are aware that they will attract fighters and such.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Okay, so according to Sage Advice, the Strength domain ability requires you to use your class level. Why then in the newest edition of the PHB does it still not say that?

The newest edition (which I own) says "level", not "character level" or "class level". Since they're class abilities, though, ity should be class level un;ess stated otherswiser. It's an oversight to not put "class level" and end the debate, but it's still clear.

Besides, it doesn't make sense that it would only be for the class level. Clearly the gods that take Strength as a domain are aware that they will attract fighters and such.

I have a character in the group I DM who took a level of cleric of Kord and has the Str domain, despite the fact that it's class level not character level. He's a Bbn11/Clr1, BTW.

 

[Geo]

Then there is a way to do it legally, though it be odd. You can take an awakened Dire Elephant, awakened animals can take levels. Give him the strength domain, the +5 for the levels, the +5 for the tome, which would give him a base strength of 50, 40 natural, and 10 new, then do the str domain ability, so for one round he could boost up to 70. That's without the prestige class.

 

[Zerovoid]

Thats alot of hard work. If I see 3' of hewn stone, and fell the need to make a hole there, I'll just cast disintegrate

 

[Geo]

True, but could you do it by your own bodily force alone? that's the question.

 

[MythandLore]

Re: Well

...if you ever tried to run full speed, with your shoulder first, against 3 feet of hewn stone to break it down like a silly door...you might know why it´s a feat best left to gods and heroes of inhuman proportions

Very true, you could probably drive your car into 3 feet of stone and not break thru it.
But your car will be in a world of hurt.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Re: Re: Well

Very true, you could probably drive your car into 3 feet of stone and not break thru it.
But your car will be in a world of hurt.

Yes, but your car doesn't have Str 75. Figure out how much it can carry, divide by 15 or 30, and look it up on the Str chart.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Re: Re: Re: Well

For example, my quick research shows that a jeep can carry ~5000 pounds. Since this is max carry instead of max push/drag, I don't divide by 5... but I do divide by 3 for a Large "quadruped". Looking 1667 pounds up on the chart I find it's roughly Str 31. If you take 20 with the (poor) jeep, you'll get a check of 30... not nearly high enough to break through the wall.

 

[FireLance]

Re: Sorry...

...no go here...Psychofeedback boosts your attribute by half the amount of PSP you expend

I have just checked my PsiHB. Psychofeedback requires 7 PSP to manifest, after which the manifester can boost any physical modifier (Str, Dex or Con) by 1 per 2 PSP expended. Hence, a psion who wants to boost his Str modifier by +50 in order to make the DC50 Str check would need to expend 100 PSP.

Hence, a 15th level Psion with Str 10 and a score of 16 in his key ability score (for 9 bonus PSPs) should be able to do it.

A more cost-effective way, PSP-wise, is to use Polymorph Self (7 PSP) first to change into a fire giant (size Large; 15 HD; Str 31). After manifesting Psychofeedback (7 PSP), the psion only has to expend 60 PSP to boost his Str modifier to +50.

Total cost: 7 + 7 + 60 = 74 PSP. He still needs to be 15th level or he will not be able to Polymorph Self into a fire giant.

And I agree with other posts. At this cost, it is far better to use Disintegrate (11 PSP).