Title for Female Knights

OStephens said:
The only suggestion I've seen which hasn't been listed here is Pira, pronounced Peer-ah which is supposedly a female form of Peer (as in, Peer of the Realm). I don't think it's a real world, but it has a certain tone to it, and little attitude baggage.

I always used Dame in my own games.

Peer is quite different from knight, though. There are plenty of peers who aren't knighted.
 

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Thunderfoot said:
Oy - :\

Dame is the excepted, Lady is the promotion and as stated before ma'am is the contracted form of m'dame or madame (which also works for madameoiselle)….

Lord/Lady; Duke/Dutchess; Baron/Baroness; King/Queen; Prince/Princess; Sultan/Sultana (or Sulteema); Viscount;Viscountess; Count/Countess(a); Father/Mother; Cardinal; Pope; Bishop; Imam & Baronet are all Titles - terms that denote special honor and are to be used at all times to show deference to that position….

(I'm sure there are more but its late and I'm tired)

So I hope that you won’t mind a few corrections, if we’re speaking English, we should probably use English, or British terms.
In descending order below Kings Queens, Princes and Princesses come:
Duke/Duchess (no ‘t’) in Dutchess, not even for residents of the Netherlands.
Marquis/Marchioness (which you missed completely)
Earl/Countess (Count/Comte, etc are invariably ‘foreign’ titles). I won’t bore you with the reasoning behind these titles, we’ll just shrug our shoulders and accept that it’s correct English.
Viscount/Viscountess
Baron/Baroness
Lord and Lady aren’t really noble titles, they are how everyone below a duke is referred to in speech. The Earl of Westmoreland would simply be called, Lord Westmoreland. Obviously ;) the Earl of Caithness, would be referred to as Laird Caithness, because he’s a Scottish Earl.
Knights of the realm stand below Barons and are called Sir (or Dame) ‘forename.’ Never Lord, because they aren’t.
 


GrumpyOldMan said:
I’ve used both Dame and Damsel, which is of course, simply an Anglicisation of demoiselle

Of "Damoiselle", more precisely, which was the ancient spelling for it. Its masculine counterpart was "damoiseau", but the word just disappeared altogether quickly. Probably because it started by "dame"...

By the way, it's funny because oiselle is the antiquated feminine form of oiseau, meaning bird. So for example, the Magic card known in English as Bird Maiden is in French the Dame-Oiselle. :)
 

el-remmen said:
Ah yes, Dame.

I can't believe I didn't think of that. . .

But then again, I may stick with 'sir' if only because it commands more respect even today and I want to avoid the OOC mockery of the term "dame" in the chauvanistic context.

There is nothin' like a dame,
Nothin' in the world,
There is nothin' you can name
That is anythin' like a dame!

Nothin' else was built the same,
Nothin' in the world
As the soft and wavy frame
Like the silhouette of a dame!

There is absolutely nothin' like a frame of a dame.
 

Thanee said:
Isn't Brienne in Song of Ice and Fire knighted? At least she becomes a member of the kingsguard.

Bye
Thanee

As mentioned, Brienne is not a knight, although she wishes she was.

Also, she is not a member of the Kingsguard, although Renly does name her to his Rainbow Guard.
 


GrumpyOldMan said:
Knights of the realm stand below Barons and are called Sir (or Dame) ‘forename.’ Never Lord, because they aren’t.

Knights don't have to Lords, but they can be. For example:

Sir William Cecil, Baron Burghley, the Lord Treasurer can be called Sir William or Lord Burghley or My Lord Treasurer.

From Elizabethan.org:

Ranks and Files (Note that there's no real title for a female knight, since there were none at the time, only knight's wives. As mentioned above, the proper modern-day title would be Dame.)
Forms of Address
Non-Noble Forms of Address (including knights)
 

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