Tome of Horrors - Evil Nitpicker at work!

[Gez]

Contributing to the Tome of Errors: Errata for the Tome of Horrors; here's some other considerations:

Page 138, Flail Snail: Considering its Warp Magic (Su) ability, it should be a magical beast IMO. At least, if it stays a vemin, it should then have no Int score.


In the "more nitpick than real errata"
Page 145, Frost Man: Don't think the (frost man) subtype is necessary, since it alerady has a (cold) subtype. Locathah and sahuagin are (aquatic) only, not (aquatic, sahuagin), etc.

Page 180, Lava Children: Same comment about the (lava children) subtype. Also, IIRC, weren't they born from melding of stone and fire elemental energies ? They should also have the (earth) subtype, and maybe be Elementals.

Page 231, Skulk: From what the original FF said, they are a human subrace, so they should have the subtype (human) rather than (skulk) (the same way that duergars are (dwarf) rather than (duergar) or drows are (elf) rather than (drow)). (And I still think they should get LLV or DV.)

 

[Gez]

Is it normal that the sand giant has rock catching, but not rock throwing ?

 

[Grazzt]

Is it normal that the sand giant has rock catching, but not rock throwing ?

Technically yes. Check the Storm Giant in the MM, for example. But yeah, that's the way it was designed.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

Who wants to be an orog?

The half-ogre has an ECL of +3, which is equal to a lvl. adjustment of +1, which is fair.

The orog has an ECL of +5, which is equal to a lvl. adjustment of +2, which is unfair, as the orog has the same ability modifiers as the half-ogre and doesn't even have natural armor.

What gives?

-Sorcica

 

[DnDChick]

The ECL of the Orog and Ogrillion, as well as the Frost Man, have all been addressed in the Tome of Horrors errata.

You can download the ToH Errata here:

http://www.necromancergames.com/prod_support.html

Or you can view it in message-board form at:

http://pub123.ezboard.com/fnecromancergamesfrm31.showMessage?topicID=331.topic

Thank you for your support.

 

[Devon]

The ECL of the Orog and Ogrillion, as well as the Frost Man, have all been addressed in the Tome of Horrors errata.

I couldn't find an amended ECL for the Orog... just amendments to its domain spells.

- Devon

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

I couldn't find an amended ECL for the Orog... just amendments to its domain spells.

- Devon

You beat me to it.
There's no ECL errata for the orog, which is why I have a gripe.

BTW, the Ogrillion is reeeally on the edge of being +4 ECL, IMO. But I can understand the reasoning for only +3, as -4 to Int hurts.

I'm enjoying this book so much. The look on my players' face when the old 1st. Ed. monsters show up....ah.

 

[Garnfellow]

Therianthropes

The Ability Score block for all therianthropes lists two separate sets of scores for animal/hybrid form and for humanoid form.

But the Alternate Form quality description reads "In humanoid form . . . [ the therianthrope] keeps its ability score."

Also, the introduction to the Therianthrope template states that "a slain therianthrope reverts to its animal form," but each example Therianthrope states that the creature does not revert to its natural form when killed.

 

[Gez]

Page 66, Slime Demodand:
Known as the middle class of the demodand race, slime demodands are as evil as their lesser relatives, the the shaggy demodands.

Either replace the first italicized word by "greater", or the second by "tarry".

 

[Orcus]

I just wanted to thank everyone here for your continued input. While we try to do our best in making our products, we dont have the staff of WotC. And ToH is a monstrous book (in many ways, but I mean size and scope). So your comments and errata are amazingly helpful--besides just being fun discussions about monster design.

As I have said before, we dont pretend there are no mistakes. Our policy is to encourage nitpicking and errata so that we can make the product the best it can be.

Thanks for all your interest and input. And make sure to visit the official errate link that "Chick" posted above. Of course, if you find new stuff, come to our boards and post new findings.

Thanks again!

Clark